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 Small one from pyrenees.Lithoeciscus (Holopogon) cf heydenii
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| picotverd |
Posted on 27-07-2015 18:56
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Last weekend, small one, 1400 mts...
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| picotverd |
Posted on 27-07-2015 18:57
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| picotverd |
Posted on 27-07-2015 18:58
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 27-07-2015 22:41
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
I have been encouraged to speak out  so I am going to do so. I might regret it later though  To me, this is one of those Lithoeciscus sp. Black legs... perhaps heydenii?? However several little things don't seem to fit with description. But hardly any Iberian Asilid seems to fit with description   so it doesn't come as a surprise |
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| picotverd |
Posted on 05-08-2015 18:19
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Thanks Pilu! Nobody else? I wonder when we will have an iberian modern list/study for Asilidae... |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 05-08-2015 19:29
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Ramón, the good news... we are already on it!! Well, Reinoud is! My experience and previous knowledge on Asilidae only allows me to be closer to the scullion of the chef But learning a lot anyway  And very happy about it! The bad news... it is going to take a very long time We plead for loads of patience.But a year ago very few people had any idea of what a Lithoeciscus might look like, so I think something positive is coming out of all the effort even if I am wrong and it is not Lithoeciscus. Difficult stuff anyway...
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| christoophe |
Posted on 05-08-2015 19:40
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 Member Location: France Provence Posts: 1995 Joined: 06.02.08 |
I think Holopogon sp. |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 05-08-2015 21:26
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2219 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Lithoeciscus has been split off by Bezzi > L. heydenii. Used to be Holopogon. Bezzi also noticed that some other species were very close, like H. rugiventris, and even Cyrtopogon tenuibarbis a.o. In Spain a lot of such specimens have been collected and most seem to be very close. One of the remarkable differences with the "regular" Holopogon species is that the hind tibiae and metatarsi are not so swollen. We are studying a lot of them but we still have to compare them with type material. This may take a lot of time. But I think Piluca is very close, I would say Lithoeciscus (Holopogon) cf heydenii too Ramon, did you collect any of these specimens? Do you have more pictures? Edited by Quaedfliegh on 10-08-2015 19:00 Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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