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Small one from pyrenees.Lithoeciscus (Holopogon) cf heydenii
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I have been encouraged to speak out Wink so I am going to do so. I might regret it later though Grin Grin

To me, this is one of those Lithoeciscus sp. Black legs... perhaps heydenii?? However several little things don't seem to fit with description. But hardly any Iberian Asilid seems to fit with description Angry Sad Wink so it doesn't come as a surprise Wink
 
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Thanks Pilu! Nobody else?
I wonder when we will have an iberian modern list/study for Asilidae...
 
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Ramón, the good news... we are already on it!! Wink Well, Reinoud is! My experience and previous knowledge on Asilidae only allows me to be closer to the scullion of the chef Grin Grin Grin But learning a lot anyway Smile And very happy about it! Smile

The bad news... it is going to take a very long time Sad We plead for loads of patience.

But a year ago very few people had any idea of what a Lithoeciscus might look like, so I think something positive is coming out of all the effort Smile Smile even if I am wrong and it is not Lithoeciscus. Difficult stuff anyway...
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I think Holopogon sp.
 
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Lithoeciscus has been split off by Bezzi > L. heydenii. Used to be Holopogon. Bezzi also noticed that some other species were very close, like H. rugiventris, and even Cyrtopogon tenuibarbis a.o. In Spain a lot of such specimens have been collected and most seem to be very close. One of the remarkable differences with the "regular" Holopogon species is that the hind tibiae and metatarsi are not so swollen. We are studying a lot of them but we still have to compare them with type material. This may take a lot of time.

But I think Piluca is very close, I would say Lithoeciscus (Holopogon) cf heydenii too

Ramon, did you collect any of these specimens? Do you have more pictures?
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 10-08-2015 19:00
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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