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Ariasella lusitanica, Hybotidae
Rui Andrade
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Posted on 06-03-2008 17:41
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Hi,

I found this wingless fly in Barcelos, Portugal on the 2nd of March 2008. Is it possible to tell something about it?

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I hope you can send it to me: It is a wingless hybotid and I'd be very happy to add it to my collection. Wink
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Hi Paul,

I already put it in alcohol, I hope I did it right.
 
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If you give it to Jorge... Jorge can deliver it to me by the end of march when I am in Batalha Wink
 
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Hi,

This is Tachydromia, probably an undescribed species (I will check once again). Unfortunately, it is a female. Did you collect only a single specimen?
Currently, Patrick Grootaert and me prepare a world revision of this genus. There have been found a few wingless species of Tachydromia.
All the best,Smile
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Ok. I will pick up the fly of Andrade and deliver it to Andre...
 
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Did you find it dead?
 
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Unfortunetly I only have oneSad. This is a very small fly and I think it will be very difficult to find another one, but I will try.
 
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jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Did you find it dead?


No, I found it alive but I only had the opportunity to photograph it now, and meanwhile it died.
 
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Did you find this one in the place you showed to me before? I remember a photo where you found vermileonid larvae. Pfft
 
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jorgemotalmeida wrote:
Did you find this one in the place you showed to me before? I remember a photo where you found vermileonid larvae. Pfft


YesSmile
 
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I forgot to thank you all for your help, thank youSmile
 
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Today I went to Barcelos, and I found more Tachydromia Smile

I collected 4 specimens that are in the four photos below. Is there a male among them (I don't know how to separate both sexes)?
On the first photo we can see two lengthy structures on the thorax that are absent on the other specimens. What are those?

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Those 'were' the 'wings'. I hope you collected enough of them to serve us all? Wink
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Evidently the male has vestigial wings, while the female has no wings at all.
Great photos of a new species. Well done Rui! Cool
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WOWOW!!

Well done, Andrade! Next weekend I will go there Pfft
I saw Hybotids here too today but no one was wingless. Sad Platypalpus spp.

j? sabes.. Pfft
 
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Thank you very much Paul, Tony and JorgeSmile.

It seems that this species is common in Barcelos because I didn't have any difficulty finding the specimens. So, don't worry Paul, there is enough specimens for all of you Wink.
 
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Today I saw many more of them. Once I had six of them in my field of visionShock.

I also saw one male feeding on a little dipteran. Does someone have an idea of what could the prey be?

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jeeeee...
like a sword stoling the life of a nematoceran fly.
 
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The prey is probably a sciarid.

Great find! "Tachydromia ruii" Smile
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