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 Small black fly. IDed as Phania funesta
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| Ginks |
Posted on 17-02-2012 17:32
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 Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
Hello! Please would you help me with an ID. I haven't got a clue about this one. Small black fly, coarse black hairs on body, brown wings pointing backwards, brown legs with substantial thighs. Very confident fly for its size, not afraid of much! Seen on tansy in garden in Mid-Essex, third week in August 2011. I've got quite a few pics of the fly in different positions if this one isn't good enough, but they're all about the same size. Thanks! Ginks attached the following image:  [83.96Kb] Edited by Ginks on 18-02-2012 18:41 TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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| Ginks |
Posted on 17-02-2012 17:35
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Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
I thought I'd add this pic as it shows the fly's butt and thighs very well!
Ginks attached the following image:  [150.2Kb] TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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| tristram |
Posted on 17-02-2012 18:07
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1329 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Looks like a Phania funesta (Tachinidae): http://www.dipter...to_id=3027 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 17-02-2012 18:32
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Agreed - Phania definitely - and funesta is a good bet  The wings aren't really brown though - you might be being confused by objects behind the fly showing through.
Edited by ChrisR on 17-02-2012 18:33 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Ginks |
Posted on 17-02-2012 18:45
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Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
Hello Tristram and Chris! Thanks for getting back to me so soon. I should have gone with my instincts and delved deeper into the Tachinids. That bristly butt, the way it behaved... but it was so much smaller than the other tachinids I've come across so far. Is this one that should be included in the records I shall(!) be sending you, Chris? TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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| Ginks |
Posted on 17-02-2012 21:57
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Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
PS: Is it possible to tell if this fly is male or female? I've just discovered another photo of a fly (misfiled) which looks very similar, but with slightly different eyes... TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-02-2012 18:16
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
The males & females often so have different spacing between the eyes (females have a wider frons) but I haven't honestly looked at Phania to see how obvious it is.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Ginks |
Posted on 19-02-2012 19:11
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Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
Thanks Chris, don't fret about the male/female thing. I was just curious. I might post the other fly later, just in case it is another species. I'm very doubtful about it. DO YOU WANT THIS ONE FOR YOUR RECORDS, seeing as it's a Tachinid? TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-02-2012 20:24
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Absolutely - any UK tachinid records are always welcome
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Ginks |
Posted on 21-02-2012 22:16
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Member Location: Mid-Essex Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.12 |
OK, will do... sometime!
TTFN, Ginks http://www.flickr...ug-hunter/ |
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but don't see the image in the post.