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| javig |
Posted on 13-02-2008 20:06
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 Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
Sierra Nevada, Granada, Spain. 2500 m. 1 July 07.  Bad photo, sorry. Edited by javig on 14-02-2008 19:47 |
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| Andre |
Posted on 13-02-2008 20:09
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Very interesting Eumerus sp., male... Please collect it next time  |
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| javig |
Posted on 14-02-2008 19:49
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 222 Joined: 21.04.07 |
Thanks for the ID!  |
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| Andre |
Posted on 14-02-2008 20:31
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Maybe it's Eumerus tricolor... I am not home right now.. hope to remember to try to make a more accurate guess tomorrow. Or maybe someone else does? |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 17-02-2008 23:40
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 Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
What about Eumerus nigrostriatus? It is really hard to tell from a picture - too many of these beautiful flies...
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| Andre |
Posted on 18-02-2008 17:19
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Eyes are separated, while it's a male: sabulonum/tricolor/ovatus. Can't see with certainty if the eyes are hairy (tricolor/ovatus), but it looks like it. Sabulonum may usually have more red on T3. Abdomen looks densely covered with silverish hairs; thorax looks to have a blueish shine. This makes me, at this stage, I'd vote for ovatus. @ Martin: as far as I know now, nigrostriatus Lambeck, 1973 is a junior synonym of etnensis Van der Goot, 1964 (same with purpurariae Ba?z, 1982. Etnensis male has eyes holoptic and bare. Any comments... please! I am still studying on Iberian species....  |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 18-02-2008 17:48
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
You are right with the synonym! But I am not so sure if the eyes are really separated... I agree it is a male and that the eyes could be dichoptic... I got some spanish Eumerus data if you are interested... Cheers Martin Martin Hauser |
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| Andre |
Posted on 18-02-2008 18:18
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
I am certainly interested Martin! Do you also have specimens? Please contact my by email for further details etc.. thanks! |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 20-02-2008 00:10
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Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
Hi Andre, did you get my email? cheers Martin Martin Hauser |
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| Andre |
Posted on 20-02-2008 01:12
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01:10h local time: not yet |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 20-02-2008 08:45
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 Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Andre and Martin, Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82. But I have no ID yet for the species photographed here... Though I am sure it's not E. ovatus, to elongated and no silvery hairs visible at the tip of the aabdomen... John |
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| Andre |
Posted on 20-02-2008 11:20
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John Smit wrote: Hi Andre and Martin, Just a comment on the synonymy stated by Andre, E. nigrostriatus Lambeck is indeed a synonym of E. etnensis Van der Goot. But E. purpureus Baez is a valid species, an endemic of the Canary Isles: Smit, J.T., Fraquinho Aguiar, A.M. & A. Wakeham-Dawson. 2004. The hoverflies (Diptera: Syrphidae) of the Madeira archipelago, Portugal. Dipterists Digest 11(1): 47-82. John Hi John. I didn't write purpureus (I know that's a valid endemic species), but purpurariae. |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 20-02-2008 11:44
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Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Andre, My fault, I meant E. purpurariae... Both E. purpurariae and E. purpureus occur on the Canaries and both are mentioned in the paper refered to... I can't help people comming up with those confusing names.. John |
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| Andre |
Posted on 20-02-2008 12:06
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
T?bem! Thank you John |
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