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 Miltogramminae spec.--> Taxigramma hilarella
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 15-11-2020 13:37
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 Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 282 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Hi, Is it possible to ID this Miltogramminae spec.? Dunes, the Netherlands june 220. Serveral specimen where posting near a 'nest' of Pompilus cinereus. Thanks in advance. Lavendel attached the following image:  [174.82Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 18-11-2020 08:27 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 15-11-2020 13:39
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 282 Joined: 10.11.07 |
several specimen
Lavendel attached the following image:  [240.38Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 15-11-2020 13:40
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 282 Joined: 10.11.07 |
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Lavendel attached the following image:  [158.79Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 15-11-2020 15:09
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7283 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I think Taxigramma (but not a genus that I've met)
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-11-2020 18:48
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18935 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Very interesting, at a Pompilus nest. Paragusia and Hilarella are fused with Taxigramma these days, so it is definitely Taxigramma Based on the first pic, the topcel in wing has a petiole, would you agree ? Theo |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 18-11-2020 07:46
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 282 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Looking at other pics from Arnold Wijker of the same fly I think there is no petiole (i could be looking at the wrong cell)
Lavendel attached the following image:  [213.11Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 18-11-2020 07:55 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-11-2020 07:58
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18935 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, in any case, it is definitely closed. Also, we can see now the wing venation is shifted towards the anteroir wing margin, but not as extreme as in the other species. Taxigramma hilarella. Theo |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 18-11-2020 08:24
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 282 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Many thanks Theo for the quick response! Greetings Sandra Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-06-2025 18:04
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18935 Joined: 21.07.04 |
According to Liekele Sijstermans, who knows this stuff much better than I do, this is Hilarella elegantula female and I do agree that the jizz is totally off for H. hilarella. At the time, I had no idea about the (lack of variability) of the black spots on abdomen. Theo |
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