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 Pretty sphecid wasp... Ammophila?
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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-08-2007 07:04
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
This one was at Benasque valley (Huesca, Aragon, Spain), in medium Pyrenees (1200 meters high) two weeks ago. Sizes about 30-35 mm. long. Is so beautiful... What species can be? |
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| pierred |
Posted on 22-08-2007 08:04
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, I think Prionyx kirbii (head towards the ground and witish stripes on the back of the tergites). Pierre Duhem |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-08-2007 09:16
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Thanks Pierred! Then, is a Pompilid... More opinions welcome  |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 22-08-2007 10:19
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Its a female Prionyx kirbii and therefore a Sphecidae and not a Pompilidae. The species in unique in Europe by the marked white tergal bands, and more ore less common south of the Alps. regards, Christian |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-08-2007 11:47
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Ohh! All my life I mistaked the Prionyx puting it in the Pompilidae family...! Thanks by the note and the confirmation. One thing more... It belongs to Sceliphrinae sub-family? Can you tell my what Iberian genus belongs to this sub-family? Edited by Isidro on 22-08-2007 11:51 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 12:51
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
pronotum doesn't touch tegula so Sphecidae.  |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:04
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
To Isidro, the situation is somewhat more complicated. The new family Sphecidae (excluding Crabronidae with the majority of 'Sphecid' wasps) comprises some Tribes (in Spain): Sceliphronini with genera Sceliphron and Chalybion is one, Sphecini with most other genera is annother (Sphex, Isodontia, Prionyx, Chilosphex, Palmodes). A third tribe isAmmophilini with Ammophila, Podalonia and some other genera. If you google for 'Pulawski' and 'Sphecidae' you will find more information in the net Regards, Christian |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:40
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Many thanks Christian. I said this, because I know a specialist in some Hymenoptera groups and, between these groups are the Sceliphrinae but no other Sphecids. Thanks again! |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 18:44
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Christian Schmid-Egger wrote: Its a female Prionyx kirbii and therefore a Sphecidae and not a Pompilidae. The species in unique in Europe by the marked white tergal bands, and more ore less common south of the Alps. regards, Christian this photo was taken last year: Prionyx lividocinctus.  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 22-08-2007 18:45
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Christian Schmid-Egger wrote: To Isidro, the situation is somewhat more complicated. The new family Sphecidae (excluding Crabronidae with the majority of 'Sphecid' wasps) comprises some Tribes (in Spain): Sceliphronini with genera Sceliphron and Chalybion is one, Sphecini with most other genera is annother (Sphex, Isodontia, Prionyx, Chilosphex, Palmodes). A third tribe isAmmophilini with Ammophila, Podalonia and some other genera. If you google for 'Pulawski' and 'Sphecidae' you will find more information in the net Regards, Christian Christian Please can you clarify the difference between Crabronidae and Sphecidae? |
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| Isidro |
Posted on 22-08-2007 23:41
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2076 Joined: 26.04.07 |
this photo was taken last year: Prionyx lividocinctus. For you Prionyx viduatus  |
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