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| pierred |
Posted on 18-08-2007 09:09
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Still in Savoy (France), 2007/7/27, 1750 m above sea. Size 10mm or about. This time, I'm already fearing to get the answer I don't want to read... But anyway, here we go... pierred attached the following image:  [78.44Kb] Pierre Duhem |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-08-2007 11:14
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9425 Joined: 24.05.05 |
You don't want to reed "Anthomyiidae female"? Sorry. This nice fly (another species of same genus, I think) I've met last october in Sochi region, females only, alas. Someday I'll found answer... Nikita Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [84.89Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 18-08-2007 13:00
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I wonder if they are also related to Juergen's 'nice little fly' from http://www.dipter...ad_id=7637 - look at the white mark on Pierre's first pic - is it dusting that disappears depending on the angle one views the fly, or is it an artifact or reflection? Susan |
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| pierred |
Posted on 19-08-2007 06:26
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, I think the white stripe at the base of the thorax is real (not an artifact or a light reflexion) on Nikita's pictures and on my own ones. Pierre Duhem |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2007 14:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9425 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Coming back to http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=7954 Today I collected attached fly. This Anthomyiidae emale is possible to ID, it has long plumose arista (as well as fly from Sochi at least). This fly is Hylemya vagans/nigtimana Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [112.05Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| pierred |
Posted on 24-08-2007 21:19
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Nikita, Are you sure that the last photo is the same as the former one? It seems that the general colour of the thorax is much different... Pierre Duhem |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-08-2007 21:27
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9425 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Not Peirre, I'm not sure, but I know where to search now! In your case it may be useless if species not collected  We have to know at least: 1. Is arista as long plumose as in cases N 2 and 3? 2. If yes, is lower squama projecting? Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| pierred |
Posted on 25-08-2007 08:18
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Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1448 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Nikita, Nikita Vikhrev wrote: Not Peirre, I'm not sure, but I know where to search now! Fine. Keep us informed. Nikita Vikhrev wrote: In your case it may be useless if species not collected I don't collect. No time, no material, no space to store, etc. Pierre Duhem |
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