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Small black Tachinidae -> cf. Dionaea sp.
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| karl7 |
Posted on 10-12-2025 15:24
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Member Location: Posts: 496 Joined: 09.02.25 |
Have a nice Day. One Question please. Can this Tachinidae species be identified in more detail? I would be very grateful for an answer. Finding data: Austria, Lower Austria, Tattendorf, 220m, dry flowering area, May 14th, 2025, size approx. 4-5mm Kind regards Karl karl7 attached the following image: ![]() [116.58Kb] Edited by karl7 on 15-12-2025 16:49 |
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| karl7 |
Posted on 10-12-2025 15:24
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Member Location: Posts: 496 Joined: 09.02.25 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 10-12-2025 16:54
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4444 Joined: 11.11.18 |
It's a male Phania and as the abdomen is dusted: Phania speculifrons, I think (a very rare one!).
Greetings, Eric |
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| karl7 |
Posted on 11-12-2025 08:51
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Member Location: Posts: 496 Joined: 09.02.25 |
Hello Eric thank you for the Answer of male Phania cf. speculifrons. It's nice that it's a rare species. Kind regards Karl. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-12-2025 18:28
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19271 Joined: 21.07.04 |
My gut feeling says Labigaster. Since we cant see the bridge behind hind coxae, we need to think about this. Theo |
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| karl7 |
Posted on 14-12-2025 11:04
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Member Location: Posts: 496 Joined: 09.02.25 |
Hello Theo thank you for the Answer. But Leucostoma sp. can't be right if you look at the wing. In Phania species, the veins converge to a point at the wingtip, as you can see in my photo. In Leucostoma species, the veins do not run together, but there is a right-angled cross vein. Kind regards Karl. Edited by karl7 on 14-12-2025 11:19 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-12-2025 13:26
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19271 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Leucostoma ? I said Labigaster Secondly, the calypter is enlarged, a clear sign of Leucostomini. As is the silvery face. Thirdly, in male Phania speculifrons, the vertex is 0,75 -0,8 x width of an eye. In your pic, it is much smaller .... In Phania, the bend of median vein is much closer to wing margin. In both Phania and Labigaster discal bristles are lacking In Dionaea, they can be present. And there seem to be some small hairs on parafacial.... So my current hypothesis is Dionaea, next of kin to Labigaster. Definitely not Phania for the reasons given above. Theo |
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| karl7 |
Posted on 15-12-2025 16:49
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Member Location: Posts: 496 Joined: 09.02.25 |
Hello Theo thank you for the detailed answer and Sorry, I mixed up the family names. Thank you for the new. Thank you for the new hypothesis of Dionaea sp. Kind regards Karl. |
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