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Nice little Anthomyiid or Muscid?
Juergen Peters
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Hello!

A small (about 5 mm) nightly fly from our garden (Ostwestfalen/Germany). Anthonmyiidae or Muscidae? Somewhat similar seems to be the Thricops nigrifrons in the gallery.
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Do you have any more images of this nice little "?" ?
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Juergen Peters
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Hello, Nikita!

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Do you have any more images of this nice little "?" ?


Sorry, only one from the same angle, not better... Sad
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If was obliged to give some answer, I would say that white mesotonum is some artefact and it is "nice little Fannia??"
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Juergen Peters
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Hello, Nikita!

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
If was obliged to give some answer, I would say that white mesotonum is some artefact and it is "nice little Fannia??"


Thanks! But I don't think the white is a (photographic) artifact. It's not the first time I saw these little flies with the whitish (dusted?) thorax.
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That, I would say nothing, even being obliged...
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I suggest that the white on the thorax is pollen, and I think Anthomyiidae, rather than Fannia - the fly's right wing appears to have an anal vein clearly running to the wing margin.
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Hello, Tony!

Tony Irwin wrote:
I suggest that the white on the thorax is pollen, and I think Anthomyiidae, rather than Fannia - the fly's right wing appears to have an anal vein clearly running to the wing margin.


Thanks! I had not taken pollen into account because auf the white colour and the regular, parallel shape. Had rather thought of some fungus.
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Just at the moment, almost all the flower-visiting insects in my garden are covered in white pollen from Impatiens glandulifera (Himalayan Balsam), but I agree that the white distribution on the thorax is odd - it doesn't look like a fungal infestation to me, nor do I think it is a natural colouration. (A strange little mystery! Grin)
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Nikita Vikhrev
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The mystery is solved.
Today I collected 2 females of same fly.
Tony was right - Anthomyiidae
Eutrichota
Mine is most probably Eutrichota socculata
Grin
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Bravo ! Wink
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Hello, Nikita!

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Mine is most probably Eutrichota socculata


Is that a (newer?) synonym of Parapegomyia socculata?
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Is that a (newer?) synonym of Parapegomyia socculata?

Yes, it is. I use Ackland's key as main sourse of information, Ackland use Eutrichota.
Also in old key for Europen Russia it is in genus Pegomyza.
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
Yes, it is. I use Ackland's key as main sourse of information, Ackland use Eutrichota.


Thanks, Nikita! I will change that in my "Entomofauna germanica".
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Michael Ackland
Eutrichota sp, perhaps schineri Schnabl

Thank you Michael, I checked the specimen again - really, "arista with longer hairs, total width of hairing more than width of first flagellomere"
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