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Syrphidae, Hammerschmidtia ferruginea from Romania
cosmln
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Posted on 12-08-2007 16:55
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Hi,

i really don't know where to put this one.
photographed in Retezat Mountain (~1200m) in 27.june.2007
size aprox 10mm

sorry for the quality.

thanks for any help,
cosmln

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As far as I know it is unusual Syrphidae - Brachyopa
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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Hammerschmidtia (Syrphidae)
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Absolutely. I only know H. ferruginea, don't know ingrica.
Great great find ! Smile


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According to Fauna Europea, it should be H. ferruginea (ingrica is an East palaearctic species).
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East european, not quite East palearctic.

The species name ingrica, is derived from the old Russian province Ingria, the land around St. Petersburg.
Edited by Kahis on 12-08-2007 18:48
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This specie was considered disappeared by one of our specialist- Ms Stanescu Carmen. She mentioned that in her PhD thesis - Faunistical, zoogeographical and ecological research concerning syrphids (Diptera, Syrphidae) from Romania (1996).
in Bradescu V. (1991) the specie is mentioned from Retezat Mountain, Ciucas Mountain, Barlad Plateau and Sibiu Depression, but he didn't mentioned the dates of the captures, so the specimens could be from the collection of the museums.
Anyway, congratulation Cosmin: with your photos you can prove that the specie is still present in our country.
 
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thanks to all for the help.
is good to know about this species.
from what i have studied on the internet, in some contry there are some action plans for recovery of this species. is good for me to know that (im biologist there in Retezat National Park). in general appear that everywhere is rare.

again thanks,
cosmln
p.s. i will change the title and upload also this photo to the gallery (is not in the gallery)
p.s.2 Paul please move this topic in syrphid section
 
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Well, here in Finland it is not particularly rare, once you know where to look for the fly. And the larvae are even easier, almost trival to find, if you know what kind of tree they prefers. Almost avaery suitable tree is colonised here.

We still have a number of largeish old aspen around, even though foresters have actively tried to eradicate the tree from our forests Sad
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very nice, first time I see a pic of this syrphid. unfortunately this nice species is absent from Belgium Sad
 
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Nice pix. Submit to the gallery! Cool
 
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crex wrote:
Nice pix. Submit to the gallery! Cool


DONE

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i think that once time I saw something similar! Smile But without photo I'm not sure. Sad

COngratulations for the great find!
 
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