Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Bibio hortulanus?
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| wimpeltje |
Posted on 02-06-2010 08:00
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Member Location: Posts: 18 Joined: 03.06.07 |
http://waarneming...260139.jpg http://waarneming...260138.jpg http://waarneming...260137.jpg Thanks for checking! Wim Bakker Edited by wimpeltje on 02-06-2010 08:04 |
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| Galeodes33 |
Posted on 02-06-2010 09:49
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Member Location: Madagascar Posts: 49 Joined: 28.05.10 |
yes, the red thorax is typical . |
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| Galeodes33 |
Posted on 02-06-2010 09:50
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Member Location: Madagascar Posts: 49 Joined: 28.05.10 |
By the way it is a female. |
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| wimpeltje |
Posted on 02-06-2010 12:22
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Member Location: Posts: 18 Joined: 03.06.07 |
Thanks!  |
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| wimpeltje |
Posted on 02-06-2010 17:04
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Member Location: Posts: 18 Joined: 03.06.07 |
In the Netherlands there seems to be another Bibio with a red thorax: Bibio anglicus. How can the Bibio hortulanus and the Bibio anglicus be distinguished? |
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| paqui |
Posted on 05-08-2011 23:46
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Hi everyone, I´m glad to "see" you again I'm sorry I know this is an old post, but I'm wondering the same for long. Lindner keys say, for isntance, that the female's hairs on thorax are witish in B. anglicus and dark in B. hortulanus, it seems the orange-red colour is not reliable, but Theo pointed at wing venation in an older post; i can see a longer vein r-m in B. anglicus, could it be right? Thanks in advance |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-08-2011 10:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19310 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The fork leading to the apical part of the radius is more or less symmetrical in anglicus, whereas it is strongly asymmetrical in hortulanus. Anglicus is restricted to GB, NL, B? and the very western part of D, hortulanus is common in the east and south, less so in western Europe. Theo |
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| paqui |
Posted on 07-08-2011 16:40
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Hi, I´m sorry i had problems logging in and couldn´t answer before, thank you very much, Theo, you're so helpful again |
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