Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 small grey fly -> Leucopis (Chamaemyiidae)
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 17-05-2010 14:54
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, this 5mm fly is from one week ago from a small forest near Cologne. I don't have a better picture. But can perhaps the family (or more?) be identified? Muscidae? Thanks, Michael Michael Becker attached the following image:  [29.97Kb] Edited by Michael Becker on 21-05-2010 13:53 |
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| paqui |
Posted on 18-05-2010 23:20
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Member Location: Valencia (spain) Posts: 816 Joined: 02.09.05 |
Hi, I´ve no idea, it remembers Chamaemyiidae to me, but I´m not sure at all, I mistake many families, let´s wait for Someone who can really tell It´s so nice  |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 20-05-2010 05:08
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello Paqui, Thank you for your answer. it seems noone is sure. The photo is simply too bad. I will label it "unknown". Michael |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 20-05-2010 06:25
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Nudge Steve Gaimari. He might confirm Chamaemyiidae. It seems to be 'bare' enough for a Leucops-like fly. Perhaps Lipoleucopis?
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 20-05-2010 20:34
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Thank you, I will try. Michael |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 21-05-2010 01:42
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Well, when it comes down to it, I just can't be sure. The first thing I thought when I saw it was Chamaemyiidae, but then looking and looking, it is just too out of focus. Two things throw me off. First, I really can't see a prescutellum (which would be irrelevant for Lipoleucopis or Anchioleucopis, since they lack it), but it really looks like it has 2 fronto-orbital setae (something they wouldn't have), but I can't even really tell that. If they were tiny I might be thinking about some Neoleucopis. So with the fronto-orbitals, I was thinking of chamaemyiines, but there aren't strong dorsocentral setae. Anyway, I kinda threw my hands up. Sorry! |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 21-05-2010 05:04
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Hello, nevertheless thank you for your effort and for the answer. I don't know why my camera always took the focus to the wings... Michael Michael Becker attached the following image:  [30.41Kb] |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 21-05-2010 08:19
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Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Now that looks more like Leucopis. Maybe some of the things I thought I saw (or didn't see) were artifacts of the lack of focus. |
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| Michael Becker |
Posted on 21-05-2010 13:52
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Member Location: Germany, Neuss Posts: 1268 Joined: 16.01.07 |
Thank you again. This morning when moving the pictures to the "unknown" directory I just saw that I had another one. Michael |
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