Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
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| jezlee |
Posted on 18-08-2009 21:28
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 Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Hello all – sorry to be such a pest, but I'm new to diptera! Any pointers for me with this one? 
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 18-08-2009 22:44
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Anthomyiidae..I think..one for Michael, best of luck, hard to ID. |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 18-08-2009 22:46
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Roger Thomason wrote: Anthomyiidae..I think..one for Michael, best of luck, hard to ID. Thanks again, Roger, for your help - where do you start with identifying flies? Are certain families more easily identifiable than others?
Edited by jezlee on 18-08-2009 22:46 Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 18-08-2009 22:56
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
You're asking the wrong person Jez..try Jorge, he's very good. I got 5 out of 5 right today so far, if this one is right...not normal for me.. .ask anyone on the site in fact...but not me.Jorge, you owe me Brownie Points for the recommendation . |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 19-08-2009 07:48
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 Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Hello Jez. I am also new to diptera but I am starting to get a slight understanding of some aspects of it, or at least it's not like I am on a different planet anymore. Saying that I got the hang of it would be a huge overstatement and most people here would choke on their morning coffee (I too am a pest ).'INTKEY: British Insects: Diptera Families' is great to play with, you can use it to get to family level. http://delta-intk.../ident.htm. Anatomical Atlas of Flies: http://www.ento.c...y/fly.html 'Overviews' Section of this forum is also very nice. Edited by cyprinoid on 19-08-2009 07:49 Hyperbolizer |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2009 09:40
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Roger Thomason wrote: You're asking the wrong person Jez..try Jorge, he's very good. I got 5 out of 5 right today so far, if this one is right...not normal for me.. .ask anyone on the site in fact...but not me.Jorge, you owe me Brownie Points for the recommendation .One thing is certain, Roger - you know more about this subject than I do ... 
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2009 09:42
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
cyprinoid wrote: Hello Jez. I am also new to diptera but I am starting to get a slight understanding of some aspects of it, or at least it's not like I am on a different planet anymore. Saying that I got the hang of it would be a huge overstatement and most people here would choke on their morning coffee (I too am a pest ).Hello to you, cyprinoid (I'm sure that's not your real name!) and thank you for your pointers - I will go and have a look at them in more detail when I have time ...
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2009 11:00
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
well, try to get The European Families of the Diptera Identification, diagnosis, biology Pjotr Oosterbroek 208 pages, b&w illus. KNNV Publishing I suggest http://www.pemboo...mon.co.uk/ --- nice prices, and very good service. It has a huge Diptera collection. Also you MUST take a look at the threads in Overviews section to recognize/study the chaetotaxy of the flies. Link: http://diptera.in...orum_id=23 |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2009 11:50
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: well, try to get The European Families of the Diptera Identification, diagnosis, biology Pjotr Oosterbroek 208 pages, b&w illus. KNNV Publishing I suggest http://www.pemboo...mon.co.uk/ --- nice prices, and very good service. It has a huge Diptera collection. Also you MUST take a look at the threads in Overviews section to recognize/study the chaetotaxy of the flies. Link: http://diptera.in...orum_id=23 Thanks for that, Jorge - I will see if I can raid my piggy bank and get that book! By the way – any idea on the fly pic I posted?
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 19-08-2009 12:00
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I think it wil be just Anthomyiidae sp. Anthomyiidae is very difficult to do (mostly genital) or with photos from all sites and good visible hairs on thorax and legs...etc. Maybe also look for the most genaral flies on my website (are just flies from the Netherlands, but most of them are also in the UK) diptera Joke van Erkelens Edited by javanerkelens on 19-08-2009 12:02 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2009 12:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I'd go for anthomyiid too. But sometimes with some photos it is not easy to split antho from muscids.  |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 19-08-2009 12:19
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
And don't forget...Fanniidae! I almost post a threat this morning for unknown Delia sp. and when i post it.....i saw it was Fanniidae So delete quicky, before every one could have a good laugh...... Joke |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2009 12:34
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
javanerkelens wrote: I think it wil be just Anthomyiidae sp. Anthomyiidae is very difficult to do (mostly genital) or with photos from all sites and good visible hairs on thorax and legs...etc. Maybe also look for the most genaral flies on my website (are just flies from the Netherlands, but most of them are also in the UK) diptera Joke van Erkelens Thanks, Joke – that's an informative and well put together site you have there! I must try to remember to do other shots of the fly now, not just the one!
Edited by jezlee on 19-08-2009 12:34 Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| Jan HC Velterop |
Posted on 20-08-2009 18:25
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Member Location: Enschede NL 7544 ZE 106 Posts: 56 Joined: 08.03.06 |
Looking at the border of the mouth, which is prominently hooked forwards - the 3 post DC - the 1 presut.AC - the small postsut.AC and the av bristle on tibia 2, I am thinking it is a female of Paregle audacula - the P. radicum auctt. Although I am not a specialist in this family. Jan Velterop, Enschede NL |
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