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 syrphidae in baltic amber
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| Di-dier |
Posted on 21-12-2008 16:35
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 Member Location: Bruxelles Posts: 45 Joined: 05.03.07 |
Hello all! Here is a syrphidae in baltic amber. As with the previous fly I will find out if it's a genuine inclusion after buying it. Can somebody says something more specific about this syrphidae? Any idea of the genera? |
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| Di-dier |
Posted on 21-12-2008 16:43
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Member Location: Bruxelles Posts: 45 Joined: 05.03.07 |
I don't understand why I can't attach pictures. It is in jpeg format and his size is 80 ko |
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| Di-dier |
Posted on 21-12-2008 19:06
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Member Location: Bruxelles Posts: 45 Joined: 05.03.07 |
another try with gif format
Di-dier attached the following image:  [186.17Kb] |
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| Andre |
Posted on 21-12-2008 20:01
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Doesn't look like a modern European genus to me. |
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| Di-dier |
Posted on 21-12-2008 20:55
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Member Location: Bruxelles Posts: 45 Joined: 05.03.07 |
If you're right, it's a great news!  |
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| pierred |
Posted on 22-12-2008 07:59
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1484 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, Could it be a Conopidae? Pierre Duhem |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 22-12-2008 08:13
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
No, it could not. 
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| Xespok |
Posted on 22-12-2008 08:58
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Does any syrphid have a wing venation like this? The venation is kind of intermediate between Syrphids and Calyptrate flies.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Di-dier |
Posted on 23-12-2008 17:22
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Member Location: Bruxelles Posts: 45 Joined: 05.03.07 |
According to the illustrations I have, there is at least one genus with such veins pattern: Neoascia but femurs are thickened... |
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| Maddin |
Posted on 11-09-2009 22:21
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 Member Location: Sacramento CA USA Posts: 194 Joined: 30.06.05 |
This is very likely a Syrphid from the genus Palaeoascia. This is one of the most common genera found in Baltic amber. There are several fossils described in modern genera, but this is often by superficial similarity and most species from Baltic amber should be placed in non-modern, e.g. new genera. The Syrphid fauna from this time was very different from the modern, and the climate was very different. There are a lot of connections between the Baltic amber fauna and the modern African fauna... Cheers Martin Martin Hauser |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 11-09-2009 22:30
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I have one somewhere in my moving boxes too. Might be something similar. Resembles Cheilosia to some extent.
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| Valentin Nidergas |
Posted on 09-03-2014 11:28
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Member Location: Savoie, France Posts: 79 Joined: 17.05.13 |
Maybe Microdontinae with the nervation ? |
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