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Voriini mating
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Posted on 28-01-2026 22:14
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Mid March in a park in Vienna - Periscepsia or Wagneria or some other genus?

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Posted on 29-01-2026 11:31
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Yes, it is a Wagneriini (are these considered Voriini these days ?)
Very difficult to say more.
But Ramonda (either as genus or as subgenus of Periscepsia) are by far the most common.

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Posted on 31-01-2026 11:03
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I think I can see >2 upright bristles on scutellum - to rule out Periscepsia carbonaria.
And no discal bristles on tergites -> Wagneria?
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I dont think you can assess the discal setae.
Ockhams first hypothesis is Ramonda


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Fair enough
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