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Ptychoptera albimana?
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 10-11-2025 21:08
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 1532 Joined: 27.09.09 |
Wetland meadow. South center of Spain. 600 m. May.
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 10-11-2025 21:08
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 1532 Joined: 27.09.09 |
ph2
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 10-11-2025 21:08
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 1532 Joined: 27.09.09 |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2025 11:49
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4391 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Yes, I think you are right about P. albimana, but the yellow scutellum somewhat confuses me - as well as the hind metatars which is only very slightly paler.
Greetings, Eric |
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 11-11-2025 17:00
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 1532 Joined: 27.09.09 |
I'm agree with you. Thanks a lot Eric!! |
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| eklans |
Posted on 11-11-2025 18:34
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4391 Joined: 11.11.18 |
I compared your cranefly with Peeters & Oosterbroek (2015): Langpootmuggen en aanverwante families, Tabel P: Ptychopteridae (Glansmuggen) But I have an update from my own image collection: In 2017/18 I could take some photos of females and males and one female has exactly the same colouration of the area between the wings including the yellow scutellum. Others are black or black and yellow. Also the 3rd metatars varies between darker and brighter pale. I'm quite sure now, that your male Ptychoptera is albimana. Sorry for my confusion!
Greetings, Eric |
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| Nacho Cabellos |
Posted on 11-11-2025 18:44
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Member Location: Spain Posts: 1532 Joined: 27.09.09 |
Thanks a lot again eric!! |
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| clovis |
Posted on 16-11-2025 09:02
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 937 Joined: 08.06.10 |
I agree with your conclusion ![]() Until the really close P incognita is discovered in Spain anyway (not yet known in France) |
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