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Haematopota bigoti? Northern western France
clovis
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Posted on 23-07-2025 11:00
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Hi,

Same area tha Atylotus, but not on coast.
A really nice active fen, but the sea is 12km by wing.

I see longs hairs on the eyes, as well as the Yellow occipital tuf, the only problem is the habitat (and that I have never seen the species)

Best,
Clovis

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos362/big/Doville%20juillet%202025%201.JPG
clovis : France : Doville : 50250 : 19/07/2025
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 14 mm
Réf. : 362189

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos362/big/Doville%20juillet%202025%202.JPG
clovis : France : Doville : 50250 : 19/07/2025
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 14 mm
Réf. : 362190

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos362/big/Doville%20juillet%202025%203.JPG
clovis : France : Doville : 50250 : 19/07/2025
Altitude : 3 m - Taille : 14 mm
Réf. : 362191
Edited by clovis on 23-07-2025 11:24
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 23-07-2025 19:06
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Hairs on eye too short. More like subcylindrica.

Theo
 
BLecaplain
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Posted on 28-07-2025 09:06
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Hi,

Can we exclude bigoti with the shape of the first antennal segment ? (round in bigoti more long in subcylindrica, italica and pluvialis)
How can we exclude pluvialis ?
The first antennal segment is not really withish-grey and we have spot on (third) fourth tergite (second in subcylindrica. So could it be italica ?
Benoît
 
clovis
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Posted on 28-07-2025 12:21
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Hi Benoit,

I was about to come back on this one. Smile

Sternites 2 and 3 have some red-orange along the sides, a character that should exclud H subcylindrica I think?
Femurs 3 are all greys.
 
BLecaplain
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Posted on 31-07-2025 15:57
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femur are not all grey in italica
Theo ?
 
clovis
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Posted on 10-09-2025 20:58
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A little up for Theo if he is around Smile
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 12-09-2025 21:52
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No ylliw hairs on vertex, so cant be italica

Theo
 
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