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 Hydroteae meridionalis or close: mistery
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| MikelAlexander34 |
Posted on 17-11-2022 22:06
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Hello. These specimens were collected in pastures with cattle in North Spain in 2020. The males were identified as H. meridionalis according to the key of Nikita Vikhrev (2013). However, I have done DNA barcoding and do not match, should be other species. I suspect that they are other species that I am not aware of. Does anybody have an idea of the possible species? Any attemps? Many thanks in advance. I appreciate comments. MikelAlexander34 attached the following image:  [230.31Kb] Edited by MikelAlexander34 on 17-11-2022 22:13 |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 18-11-2022 17:23
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5268 Joined: 17.07.08 |
It doesn't look a million miles from Nikita's photo of Hydrotaea borussica in the Gallery... https://diptera.i...to_id=3309 plus.. http://www.spessa...ssica.html Could be wrong, it won't be the first time, or the last  Regards Roger Edited by Roger Thomason on 18-11-2022 17:41 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-11-2022 22:21
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9453 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Mid femur shows that it is not borussica. Either meridionalis or pandellei
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [63.15Kb] Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-11-2022 22:31
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9453 Joined: 24.05.05 |
1. t3 fits well meridionalis 2. Of course, meridionalis and pandellei are very close species. 3. Rarely pandellei has abdomen widely yellow. Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [51.37Kb] Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2022 22:31 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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