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 Mystery family - Chloropidae! (Trichieurina pubescens)
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:04
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I’d appreciate a name (or even a family) for this fly – I’m sure I’ve seen it before, but can’t recall what it is! The photo was taken by József Káldi, on 15 March, near Győr in NW Hungary.
Tony Irwin attached the following image:  [172.58Kb] Edited by Tony Irwin on 09-12-2020 18:32 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Jozef Obona |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:06
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 Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 336 Joined: 07.12.10 |
Tony Irwin wrote: I’d appreciate a name (or even a family) for this fly – I’m sure I’ve seen it before, but can’t recall what it is! The photo was taken by József Káldi, on 15 March, near Győr in NW Hungary. No image ?  |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:08
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
So long since I posted a picture - I had to remind myself of the rules!
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| Jozef Obona |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:12
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 336 Joined: 07.12.10 |
these are similar https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=8846 https://diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=645 |
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| Jozef Obona |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:14
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 336 Joined: 07.12.10 |
or Trichieurina pubescens  |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:16
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Thanks, Jozef. Agreed the body and head shape is similar, but they are just not hairy enough!
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:25
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
With all probability a Chloropidae. Looks like Trichieurina pubescens (https://insektari...pubescens/)
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-12-2020 13:55
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Bless you, Andrzej! Mystery solved!
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-12-2020 18:35
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
And thanks, Jozef - I failed to see your second post!
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| Andrzej |
Posted on 09-12-2020 18:55
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Member Location: Poland Posts: 2339 Joined: 05.01.06 |
Two heads are better than one! Greetings from Southern Poland  .
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 09-12-2020 19:01
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thanx Andrzej, this fly haunter me for so long.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| von Tschirnhaus |
Posted on 14-12-2020 11:25
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Member Location: Bielefeld, Germany Posts: 430 Joined: 04.11.07 |
Chloropidae, Chloropinae, Trichieurina pubescens (Meigen, 1830), originally described in Eurina, partly misspelled as Eurhina, transferred to Trichieurina by Duda 1932-1933 in Lindner; by Brischke (1890: 100) ordered in the family group name Sciomyzina. Read my post for https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=29190. Until today not yet published for the west of Germany or western Europe. All trials by me to find the host plant in places of east Germany [where it had been rarely collected by Hella Wendt and by Christian Kassebeer early in the year] were in vain. For anybody who could present me at least one male and one female for genitalia studies I would be very thankful. Anybody who caught it should note the exact geographical coordinates and all monocots around the locality (except the Poaceae), especially Carex spp. Larvae may possibly produce galls. Published countries of occurrence: Austria, Bulgaria, Central Asia, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Kaliningrad Oblast of Russia, Moscow Region and other Russian northern and southern areas, Kyrgyzstan, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Ukraine. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 14-12-2020 15:50
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9223 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you for explanaition, Michael. One more task for early spring is always usefull.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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but don't see the image in the post.