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 Bibionidae - Bibio anglicus ?
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| maxi6215 |
Posted on 30-04-2020 17:34
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Member Location: Posts: 412 Joined: 22.07.18 |
Hello, I observed this Bibio the 30th of April in the north of France, approximately 8 mm. I think of a male of Bibio anglicus but hesitate a lot with Bibio marci, I don't know how to differentiate them with certainty ? Cordially Maxime    |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-04-2020 18:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19319 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The wing venation excludes B. marci, however, the spur on front tibia suggests leucopterus. Did you consider this species ? Theo Edited by Zeegers on 30-04-2020 19:05 |
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| maxi6215 |
Posted on 30-04-2020 20:04
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Member Location: Posts: 412 Joined: 22.07.18 |
No I didn't know this species. Do you have documents illustrating these Bibio like the wing venation… for me to learn ? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-05-2020 11:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19319 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Please check Sundews recent post for a link to Verbeke (1971). Another option is Frreman & Lane in Handbook British Insects, or my own masterpiece (ahum) from 1997, in dutch. https://www.nev.nl/diptera/vliegenmepper/Vliegenmepper1997-2.pdf Theo |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 01-05-2020 17:46
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hello, here is the link to the paper by Verbeke: http://biblio.nat...tin-23.pdf Regards, Sundew |
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| maxi6215 |
Posted on 01-05-2020 19:29
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Member Location: Posts: 412 Joined: 22.07.18 |
Thank you very much for your documents, so for this Bibio, we can conclude in Bibio leucopterus ? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-05-2020 07:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19319 Joined: 21.07.04 |
To me, it remains unclear. The wing seems too dark for leucopterus and the front spurs seem ok in one pic, but not ok in the other. Theo |
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| Colobo |
Posted on 02-05-2020 08:01
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 85 Joined: 03.05.07 |
ICertainly not leucopterus, which has wings clearly whitish in male. I would rather incline for anglicus (but with a question mark...) |
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| maxi6215 |
Posted on 02-05-2020 11:22
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Member Location: Posts: 412 Joined: 22.07.18 |
Damage thank you for your help |
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