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Ephydridae -> Scathophila
Carnifex
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Posted on 04-04-2020 00:28
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Hi,
found indoors, Vienna (early April). Could it be Scatella palustris?

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Edited by Carnifex on 08-10-2021 05:20
Cheers, Lorin

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Posted on 04-04-2020 09:29
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The hairy face, single fronto-orbital bristle and the costa only extending to R4+5 all add up to Scatophila.
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Posted on 07-04-2020 08:19
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Thanks Tony! I cannot find a key for the species, can you help out?
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I think your best option is a paper by Jens-Hermann Stuke (2010). Die Uferfliegen Niedersachsens und Bremens (Diptera: Ephydridae). Entomologische Zeitschrift, Stuttgart. 120: 171-189 and 195-222. [Scatophila is on pp.213-216]. If your specimen is a female, it may be more tricky. I think I have a copy I can send you.
Edited by Tony Irwin on 07-04-2020 09:28
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Posted on 07-04-2020 23:12
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Using the key Tony provided, I reached tentatively S. caviceps.
The scutellum appears to me dusted at the basis and at the tip.

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Edited by Carnifex on 29-09-2021 21:39
Cheers, Lorin

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Posted on 29-09-2021 21:41
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want to bring this old ID request back, adding an additional image:
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The costa seems to reach M, would this make this species Scatella instead of Scathophila?
Edited by Carnifex on 30-09-2021 21:25
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To me, the costa ends at (or just slightly beyond) R4+5 - the next section (to M) is very faint.
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Posted on 08-10-2021 05:19
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Thanks Tony, good to get a confirmation again TumbsUp
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