Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Third Anthomyiidae
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 24-12-2019 10:35
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Photo taken on 2016-may-06 in southern Italy. mixed wood and pasture, 1350m asl. Body lenght 5 mm. Maybe this is the same subject of my previous post.
Carlo Monari attached the following image:  [86.98Kb] Best regards, Carlo |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 24-12-2019 14:44
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 Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10662 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Possibly Egle. |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 06-01-2020 08:12
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Thanks John.
Best regards, Carlo |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 06-01-2020 14:44
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I have looked at this photo for a long time...and I don't think this is a Egle species, but I also cannot tell you which other genus of species this could be. We need more photo from different angles… Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 07-01-2020 08:27
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Thanks again. Just another question: as far as you can guess, is there a chance that this is the same species of my other unresolved post?https://diptera.i...d_id=93116
Best regards, Carlo |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 07-01-2020 15:48
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
To ID Anthomyiidae it is necessary to see several typical characteteristics. A combination of those characteteristics, so to speak...can lead to a possible genus/species. On both your threads, I can't make those combinations. I don't like to gues, that has no scientific value. Sharp photos and from different angles taken can help.... Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 07-01-2020 16:53
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
I agree. Both will reain unknown Antgomyiidae, next time I'll try to post better photos. The problem is that with living subjects you take what you can, not what you want.
Best regards, Carlo |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 07-01-2020 22:40
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Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10662 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Typical characters of Egle are dense and long hairs, costa slightly swollen near end of R1, found on or near flowers of Salix, antennae short, chin projecting. There are exceptions. For example, at least one species does not have a chin and some species feed on Populus. |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 08-01-2020 18:52
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
This fly is photographed in may, which is very late for Egle,(only E. concomitans which feed on populus, but it don't think it is ) also the strong ad and pd seta on the midtibia seems to strong for Egle, …further we see the 5th sternite facing downward and it seems to have strong lobes (surstylus)…also not common for Egle and the eyes seems to be seperated by a small vitta and there seems no prealar present... There are also many more Anthomyiidae feeding on willow also... I agree, this fly has a strong Egle look, and I could be wrong of course, but I stil don't think this is Egle..  Johanna Edited by javanerkelens on 08-01-2020 19:07 |
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