Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Another Anthomyiidae
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 19-12-2019 22:31
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Photo taken on 2016-may-06 in southern Italy. mixed wood and pasture, 1350m asl. Body lenght 5 mm.
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 20-12-2019 05:37
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Do you have more photos of this fly..? Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 20-12-2019 07:59
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Yes, but all dorsal views like this one. no better resolution of the head, no view of hind tibias. Are you looking for something that could be better understood with crops of this view?
Best regards, Carlo |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 22-12-2019 21:37
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I thought it could be Delia radicum, but with a long ad seta on the mid tibia, this option is ruled out. I think it just will stick to only....male Anthomyiidae Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 23-12-2019 08:34
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Why ad? On the (right) mid tibia I see only pd and av long setas.
Best regards, Carlo |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 23-12-2019 15:08
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
Mid tibia with 1 ad, 2 pd and 1 pv (just visible, but probably there are also 2 pv) There is no av seta present.... Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 23-12-2019 20:18
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
So, if I understand correctly, the pd setas are those pointed by the red arrovs, the pv seta by the green arrow, and the av seta by the black arrow, all in the left mid tibia. But what is the seta circled in red in the right mid tibia?
Carlo Monari attached the following image:  [154.61Kb] Edited by Carlo Monari on 23-12-2019 20:23 Best regards, Carlo |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 23-12-2019 20:39
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
In one of the other photos the right mid tibia is more detailed.
Carlo Monari attached the following image:  [48.77Kb] Best regards, Carlo |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 23-12-2019 21:57
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
You color it correct on the first photo! On the second photo we see the apical setae and they can be very confusing when we look at them from above! They can give the impression if they belong to the leg setae (on the tibia), but the apical setae (mostly very strong setae at the end of tibia) we mostly don't use for identification.....and if so, only from the hind tibia. Nicely done, Johanna |
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| Carlo Monari |
Posted on 24-12-2019 08:39
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Member Location: Milan, Italy Posts: 272 Joined: 28.04.11 |
Got it. Thank you for your patience.
Best regards, Carlo |
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