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 Lasiopogon cinctus? = confirmed by Piluca
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-06-2018 17:59
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
female - 9.2mm - Berlin - early May 2018 I think that this is Lasiopogon cinctus female. Only L. cinctus is listed for Germany but i have no keys or drawings for this genus. Am i correct about the genus and species? is it possible for any other Lasiopogon? Thank you for your time. johnes81 attached the following image:  [76.69Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 19-06-2018 13:15 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-06-2018 18:00
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
dorsal view
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-06-2018 18:00
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
terminalia
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-06-2018 18:00
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
wing
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 18-06-2018 18:00
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
terminalia dissected
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 19-06-2018 10:21
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Lasiopogon is a nightmarish genus but very easy in your area  Only Lasiopogon cinctus is recorded. Females (as you already mentioned your specimen is) are not the best for identification; male genitalia is needed. But anyway, your specimen fits nicely the species, and as no other species has ever been recorded around Berlin, it would be extremely unlikely that it could be anything else 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 19-06-2018 10:36 |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 13:14
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello and Thank you, Piluca the saying, "two heads are better than one" applies here. You also see L. cinctus, so L. cinctus it is. I found her at sandy heathland, which also fits the description for L. cinctus. I didn't see a male around. Hopefully, i can find a male. I was curious about other Lasiopogon species because faunaeruropaea mentions Lasiopogon immaculatus as a doubtfully present species. Last year i found a first record for Germany, so i am always careful now. Thank you for your time and expertise. I appreciate you very much. I hope that you have a splendid day
Edited by johnes81 on 19-06-2018 13:14 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 18:13
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
further dissection.
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 18:14
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
i wonder about those large black appendages. are these thick bristles? do they have a scientific name? I see 8 on each side.
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 20-06-2018 21:52
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2220 Joined: 18.05.10 |
They are called acanthophorite spines and are usually used for digging a hole in the soil.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 21-06-2018 14:23
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
very interesting. Thank you, Reinoud i saw a few of these today resting on a wooden bridge over a pond. I think that a male was present but i was more interested in a Protophormia terraenovae. I hope that you have a pleasant day, John John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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