Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Odinia sp.
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 01-07-2017 15:09
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Could this be Odinia maculata ? Seen in June in a moor, Southern Limburg, the Netherlands. Ben Ben Hamers attached the following image:  [74.89Kb] |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 01-07-2017 15:11
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Picture 2
Ben Hamers attached the following image:  [73.65Kb] |
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 01-07-2017 15:11
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Picture 3
Ben Hamers attached the following image:  [85.21Kb] |
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 18-07-2017 12:29
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This is Neoalticomerus (5 dorsocentrals, Odinia has only 4). N. formosus is known from Germany, other species are possible. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-07-2017 13:25
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That is a new genus for the Netherlands. 
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 18-07-2017 14:56
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Isn't it the other way around? Odinia with 5 pairs of dorsocentrals and Neoalticomerus with 4? |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 18-07-2017 15:01
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
You are right, according to the Contributions to a Manual of Palaearctic Diptera...
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 18-07-2017 15:05
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Indeed, this is Odinia spec., NOT Neoalticomerus. As far as I know currently only Neoalticomerus formosus is known from Europe. This species clearly looks different.
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 18-07-2017 15:06
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You are right. Sorry for the desinformation. It is Odinia, difficult to determine from the photo. Jan |
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| Jan Maca |
Posted on 18-07-2017 15:34
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And a note to Neoalticomerus: Except of formosus, there is another species known from France and Hungary - N. fabricius Withers and Papp 2012, Dipterist Digest 19: 59. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 18-07-2017 16:34
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Interesting! Can someone send me a copy of Withers & Papp (2012)? |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 19-07-2017 19:18
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2171 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Check your mail Rui :-).
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| Ben Hamers |
Posted on 19-07-2017 21:05
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Member Location: Heerlen ( Holland ) Posts: 739 Joined: 16.12.04 |
Thanks to all of you for your comments. Ben |
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| Ectemnius |
Posted on 19-11-2019 16:09
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 865 Joined: 22.11.11 |
Hello All, Came to this topic by accident. To my surprise the question asked in the first post is not answered... Yes this is Odinia maculata (or trinotata according to the world catalog). Two eye fascia, large black spots at crossveins, dark markings on all antennal segments, brown thoracic vittae and dark legs. The pictures here included are however still in the gallery as Neoalticomerus: https://diptera.i...lbum_id=32 And, Neoalticomerus is now known from the Netherlands: https://www.resea..._Odiniidae Greetings, Ectemnius |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 19-11-2019 16:15
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Ectemnius wrote: Actually, just one, but I renamed it as Odinia maculata. I will look in that trinotata issue later.
The pictures here included are however still in the gallery as Neoalticomerus: https://diptera.i...lbum_id=32 Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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