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 Blephariceridae, Philorus, Vietnam 
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 00:09 
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05  | 
2 males in alcohol, October 30, 2015, Vietnam, Lao Cai Prov., Sa Pa Distr., Ban Khoang env., 22.3872N, 103.7867E, 1682m a.s.l. Wing length ca. 4.8mm. Antennae 14-segmented, long (ca. 2mm or 0.4 length of wing), first flagellomere the longest segment. Three ocelli present. Only hind tibiae with a spur-like setose appendage, longer than tibia width, or ca. two-thirds of tarsomere 5. Coxae not elongated, trochanters ventrally with black streaks, the longest ones on hind trochanters. General colouration brownish yellow, thoracic dorsum darker. I moved from Nepaletricha to Hesperinidae to Mycetobiidae, all rejected because of the present combination of characters. Wings badly deformed in alcohol so here's my sketch, the venation is rather peculiar, I couldn't make out any of subcostal vein (too weak, too short?). Dotted lines show where veins (in my view at least) seemed evanescent, almost like folds. [Subject changed from Nematocera, Vietnam - which family?? to Blephariceridae, Philorus, Vietnam. ID credits: Paul Beuk] Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image: ![]() [101.7Kb] Edited by Dmitry Gavryushin on 08-01-2016 17:01 While others can't climb, using infinite pains, I, gravity turning to jest, Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes, Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best.  | 
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 00:10 
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The head to show structure of palpi.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 00:10 
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The spur on hind tibia.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 00:11 
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Hind leg, tarsal claws.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 00:12 
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05  | 
Male genitalia, dorsal, lateral (not so good, just to get the general idea), and ventral views.
 Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image: ![]() [104.7Kb] While others can't climb, using infinite pains, I, gravity turning to jest, Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes, Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best.  | 
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| Paul Beuk | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 11:36 
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04  | 
General head shape reminds me of Ceratopogonidae but then the antennae are off. I asked Peter Chandler for his opinion.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 13:19 
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05  | 
Thanks Paul, yet I believe Ceratopogonidae got no ocelli... | 
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| Paul Beuk | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 13:24 
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And that is in addition to the wrong antennae.  
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| Paul Beuk | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 14:05 
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Could you check against Blephariceridae (Philorus)?
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 16:04 
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Well Paul I think you're quite right, elongated mouthparts, antennae of 13 to 15 segments, Sc rudimentary, hind tibiae with 1 or 2 spurs, male genitalia of similar structure. I omitted Blephariceridae because in Stackelberg it is considered that vein C is developed in whole wing, while Courtney writes that C reaches only the apex of R5. | 
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| Dmitry Gavryushin | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 16:26 
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3338 Joined: 17.10.05  | 
I think the closest match is Philorus assamensis (Tonnoir, 1930) [Notes on Indian blepharocerid larvae and pupae with remarks on the morphology of blepharocerid larvae and pupae in general. Records Indian Mus. 32(2), pp. 207-209], as Euliponeura, synonimysed by Zwick in 1990. Couldn't find any proper records of Blephariceridae from Vietnam... | 
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| Jan | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 16:40 
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Yes, I agree with Blephariceridae | 
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| Paul Beuk | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 16:56 
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Without species, two genera are mentioned in this paper: https://www.acade...etnam_2008.
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| Paul Beuk | 
 Posted on 08-01-2016 17:05 
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By the way, Zwick & Arefina (2005) establish there is a clearly monophyletic group within Philorus for which the name Euliponeura is available but recognizing it as a valid genus would render the remainder of Philorus paraphyletic...
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