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Juergen Peters
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Posted on 17-08-2005 21:12
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Hello!

This syrphid was only about half the size of a Syrphus and its stripes were nearly white. I photographed it today on a meadow in Ostwestfalen/Germany and have no idea about the species. Can anybody help me? Thanks in advance!

Addendum: Could it be Parasyrphus macularis?

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Edited by Juergen Peters on 17-08-2005 21:22
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Posted on 17-08-2005 23:00
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Hello Juergen,
Syrphus vitripennis can be quite small, and also the stripes can be very 'whitish'.
By the color of it's thorax it is very clear that it belongs in the genus Syrphus, and it's size and color leave only S. vitripennis!
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Hello, Gerard!

Gerard Pennards wrote:
Syrphus vitripennis can be quite small, and also the stripes can be very 'whitish'.
By the color of it's thorax it is very clear that it belongs in the genus Syrphus, and it's size and color leave only S. vitripennis!


But it was really very small. The estimation of only half the size of a "normal" Syrphus was no understatement! Unfortunately I don't have it on a picture with another Syrphus, but with a Phaonia (?), which had the size of a normal house fly. On the second picture the same Phaonia individual is with an Episyrphus balteatus which is normally smaller than a Syrphus.

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Difficult to see the legs... but it looks Parasyrphus to me. Possibly annulatus, but we cannot be sure. Gerard's suggestion might be right too... vitripennis can be very very small. Did it have a darkened facial knob or facial stripe?
 
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Hello, Andre!

Andre wrote:
Difficult to see the legs... but it looks Parasyrphus to me. Possibly annulatus, but we cannot be sure. Gerard's suggestion might be right too... vitripennis can be very very small. Did it have a darkened facial knob or facial stripe?


Here is another picture, more from the front. Maybe that helps.

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Yes, I am pretty confident it's annulatus.
Catch it next time and use the DJN Schwebfliegen-schl?ssel for positive identification without having to kill the flie, I'd say Pfft
 
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