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 Holopogon
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| Cor Zonneveld |
Posted on 14-08-2011 20:59
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 Member Location: Amstelveen, the Netherlands Posts: 840 Joined: 14.10.06 |
French Ardeche, near secondary raod over pass at 650 m. Small! At Dutch forum Holopogon nigripennis was suggested, with advice to cross check. So confirmation/correction asked for.
Cor Zonneveld attached the following image:  [81.53Kb] Thanks for your attention Cor Zonneveld |
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| christoophe |
Posted on 14-08-2011 21:41
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 Member Location: France Provence Posts: 1995 Joined: 06.02.08 |
In southern France, H. venustus is very common, close to nigripennis. This is one I found most, near the Alps. A picture of a male? |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 15-08-2011 18:15
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2220 Joined: 18.05.10 |
The abdomen seems entirely black....In the key by Seguy that is distinguishing between the 2 species...Is that no longer the case?
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| christoophe |
Posted on 15-08-2011 19:43
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Member Location: France Provence Posts: 1995 Joined: 06.02.08 |
Seguy writes for the female "mesonotum one-color, no gray spot on the anterior part". Picture of nigripennis female of Geller-Grimm. Pic of venustus female christoophe attached the following image:  [71.4Kb] |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 15-08-2011 20:29
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2220 Joined: 18.05.10 |
I will have to agree.. But somehow using the key by Seguy, I first end up with H. fumipennis. Then reading in other books about tibia 3 that didn't seem right. I used the key again and now i end up with....................H. venustus! Must have misread at a certain point. At 9 I didn't move on to 18 as i should have. Grr
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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