Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Sarcophagidae-> Sarcophaga dissimilis/S. chaetoneura
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| Jan Wind |
Posted on 19-05-2011 21:16
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Member Location: Ede, The Netherlands Posts: 809 Joined: 24.10.10 |
Seen today 19 may 2011 at border of Salix flood forest in Urtica Rubus fielo in riverine area The Netherlands. Looks like a Rhinophoridae but has R5 open.
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| Jan Wind |
Posted on 19-05-2011 21:17
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Member Location: Ede, The Netherlands Posts: 809 Joined: 24.10.10 |
pics 2
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 20-05-2011 11:25
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
This is a Sarcophaga for sure. Probably Sarcophaga (Discachaeta) pumila. This not an id but it is the most common, small Sarcophaga with black genitalia. Liekele |
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| Jan Wind |
Posted on 20-05-2011 21:14
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Member Location: Ede, The Netherlands Posts: 809 Joined: 24.10.10 |
Liekele thank you for the information. I have seen this species several times this week at different places. I better change the title, Kind regards, Jan Wind |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-08-2011 08:31
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Sorry to ressurrect this thread but are we sure that this is correct? Because it doesn't look like the ones that I have keyed out from the UK ... and mine all have red genitalia, as described in the key  How about something like Sarcophaga (Pierretia) nigriventris? Edited by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 08:33 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Jan Wind |
Posted on 13-08-2011 12:37
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Member Location: Ede, The Netherlands Posts: 809 Joined: 24.10.10 |
Thank you Chris for looking at this. I have more pictures if needed. But I have no key and do not know what detail may be needed Kind regards, Jan Wind |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-08-2011 13:45
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, Liekele & Thomas are the sarcophagid experts ... but a friend of mine caught pumila recently and he saw this photo and it didn't match his specimen ... or any of mine, so we were a bit worried. 
Edited by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 13:45 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 19-09-2011 08:43
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
After some discussion with Chris, I must agree this cann't be Sarcophaga pumila nor S. nigriventris. Because off the shiny appearance it should be Sarcophaga dissimilis or S. chaetoneura. A definitive identification is however only possible by checking the genitalia. Liekele |
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| Jan Wind |
Posted on 19-09-2011 19:04
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Member Location: Ede, The Netherlands Posts: 809 Joined: 24.10.10 |
Thank you Liekele and Chris to sharpen together this investigation. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-09-2011 20:12
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
To Liekele goes the credit for the identification - I just noticed that the original name seemed wrong and Liekele worked the rest out
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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