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 Chloropidae Oscinella? 2mm
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 01:37
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Hello, I'm stuck with this one! I rescued it from the pond, it cleaned itself up on on my finger but it only had one wing.  18th May 2010, near Lincon UK. Not the best photos but I was using one hand. 3 pics. Janet 
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 01:38
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pic 2
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 01:39
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pic 3
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 20-12-2010 01:41
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blowave wrote: Hello, I'm stuck with this one! I rescued it from the pond, it cleaned itself up on on my finger but it only had one wing. Not the best photos but I was using one hand. Janet Always best to use both I find!  Chloropidae, I think it looks like Oscinella sp. Edited by Roger Thomason on 20-12-2010 03:00 |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 02:56
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
I think you're right Roger, about Chloropidae Oscinella that is. I thought it looked Chloropidae-ish but for the last two nights I have been not able to get through the bogged down phone lines to check on things so in frustration my mind went blank. Apparently Xmas is around the corner, or down my internet line.
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 20-12-2010 12:43
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Dear Janet Is first picture same species of 2 and 3 pic.s or it's cause angle? I think that's different from 2 and 3 pic.s! Sincerely yours Sara |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 14:19
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Hi Sara, yes they are all the same fly taken at the same time. The first two pics I took while it was on my finger, that's the pink background!  I then placed it on a stone for the third pic.
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 20-12-2010 15:40
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Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Unless you are being plagued by one-winged Chloropids? |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 20-12-2010 15:42
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That's good It seems O. pusilla, but for positive ID, need to ganitalia of mail... Do you rubbing any thing your finger for fly?  
Edited by Sara21392 on 20-12-2010 15:52 Sincerely yours Sara |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 16:19
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Thank you Sara, a near ID is better than not. No I didn't put anything on my finger, I had taken it out of the water in my pond. I'm always rescuing tiny insects! http://cubits.org... |
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| conopid |
Posted on 20-12-2010 16:33
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 Member Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1039 Joined: 02.07.04 |
If you have the specimen, check for the large ocellar triangle on its head. If it lacks that feature, it could be in the family Camillidae - which have a lustrous sheen to them, which your's appears to have?
Edited by conopid on 20-12-2010 17:38 Nigel Jones, Shrewsbury, United Kingdom |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 20-12-2010 16:48
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Hi would you please tell me number of characters about Camilidae? I don't have enough inform about them? Sincerely yours Sara |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 17:36
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
It does appear to have the triangle Nigel, I didn't keep it even though it had only one wing. I'm too soft to do that. I should have recognised this as one I posted here not so long ago which looks to be the same but with two wings, it was only 5 days before this one. http://diptera.in...d_id=35134 Sara, I found the characters of Camillidae for you.. http://delta-intk...millid.htm http://en.wikiped...Camillidae I lightened a pic to show the triangle, there looks to be a row of bristles at the side of it showing on one of the pics. blowave attached the following image:  [86.88Kb] http://cubits.org... |
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| conopid |
Posted on 20-12-2010 17:45
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Oh yes, the triangle appears to be there. It's difficult to be sure but I can't make out any plumosity on the upper side of the arista, which would eliminate Camillidae.
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 18:02
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
In this pic I could almost imagine there is plumosity on the arista..
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 18:04
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
But the costa doesn't appear to have two breaks, there looks to be one..
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 20-12-2010 18:24
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Thank you very much Janet! With these interpretations I think it's same Chloropidae?! Doesn't it?? Sincerely yours Sara |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 18:50
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
I think the two flies are the same species, the one in this thread maybe is a male? The fly in the earlier thread suggests a female because of the abdomen. http://diptera.in...d_id=35134 Unless of course it's the same fly and it had laid it's eggs thus shrinking the abdomen! The abdomen of the fly in this thread does look narrow and small like a male's to me. http://cubits.org... |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 20-12-2010 19:34
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Oh! I be doubtful about Chloropidae! Do you have any pictures about genitalia from under of abdomen?? I have some pictures, but they are large size for forum, please wait until I set them, to I can say why? Sincerely yours Sara |
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| blowave |
Posted on 20-12-2010 19:41
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Sorry, these are the only pics I have. Waiting to see why it's not Chloropidae.
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