Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Sarcophaga depressifrons, Sarcophagidae
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| JariF |
Posted on 06-12-2010 14:34
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Hi, I am working with my Sarcophagidae and am a bit lost with this one. Yes, it's dirty because it's from malaise and I may wash it clean if it turns to be something interesting. It really don't fit any keys, so can it be maybe a Calliphoridae ? Arista is long plumose, long bristles on R1 and R2+3 and there is no Tachinidae-like sub-scutellum. Maybe it's just something I really should know, but now I'm lost. Any ideas ? July 9. 2010 Loviisa, Finland. Jari JariF attached the following image:  [144.51Kb] Edited by JariF on 08-12-2010 15:24 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 06-12-2010 14:59
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Some kind of Tachinidae, I'd say.
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| JariF |
Posted on 06-12-2010 16:22
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
Thanks. Maybe I must change the name for this thread. Jari |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 06-12-2010 23:49
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If there really is not sign of a subscutellum then it can't be a tachinid ... sure there are tachinids without (eg. Litophasia) but they don't look like this. Could it have a partial subscutellum, like a rhinophorid? The head is quite round and the calyptrae seem small and do not hug the scutellum.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 07-12-2010 10:27
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19308 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Definitely a Sarc. Difficult to see, first impression is Sarcophila latifrons, but the frons seems too narrow (?) Start checking the hind coxa for setulae Theo |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 07-12-2010 11:06
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
I agree on Sarcophagidae. But it is not Sarcophila which has a different abdominal pattern. It is a female Sarcophaga s.l. BTW A lot of the smaller Sarcophaga's have Rhinophorid like calyptra. Liekele |
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| Thomas Pape |
Posted on 07-12-2010 11:18
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Member Location: Natural History Museum of Denmark Posts: 110 Joined: 29.08.05 |
Theo is right "Definitely a Sarc". I also agree with Liekele that this is probably a female of Sarcophaga s.l., and if so it is likely subgenus Heteronychia (faint fumosity of wings could be a hint that this is S. depressifrons). However, I cannot entirelly rule out Blaesoxipha lapidosa without having a better view of the head profile and the larvipositor. |
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| JariF |
Posted on 07-12-2010 17:53
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
So Sarcophagidae after all. It does not have that blade like larvipositor, so Sarcophaga female. Following the key it has 3 strong dc and the first one is closer to suture than to second; terminalia is blackish brown; vein R1 is setose; postgenal hairs are white and vein R1 has 7 setae. Conclusion: Sarcophaga (Heteronychia) depressifrons with slightly fumose wings  Thank You once again Jari |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 07-12-2010 21:28
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19308 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Liekele, Thomas, that was my second thought. Sometimes better than the first. Anyway, I already gave the argument why it couldn't be Sarcophila. Theo |
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