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| PeterD |
Posted on 07-08-2010 13:12
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
Could someone please help with this ID? http://www.imagei...36U-XL.jpg Thanks Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 07-08-2010 19:43
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
Wings are a good match with Capitites ramulosa in the Gallery. http://www.dipter...to_id=2301 Valery or Severin will have a better idea than me though...But Capitites anyway I think Edited by Roger Thomason on 07-08-2010 20:20 |
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| PeterD |
Posted on 07-08-2010 20:46
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
Roger Thomason wrote: Wings are a good match with Capitites ramulosa in the Gallery. http://www.dipter...to_id=2301 Valery or Severin will have a better idea than me though...But Capitites anyway I think Thanks for your reply Roger and also the gallery link. Based on wing pattern etc., it looks like a good match  .
Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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| oxycera |
Posted on 07-08-2010 21:11
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Member Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire Posts: 251 Joined: 31.12.09 |
Tephritris cometa |
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| PeterD |
Posted on 07-08-2010 22:06
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
oxycera wrote: Tephritris cometa Thanks for your reply  Now I am very perplexed  . I have looked up your suggestion above and it too looks like my fly Kind regards Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 08-08-2010 06:10
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Sorry, gentlemen. Tephritis is not that easy. My humble opinion: either Tephritis neesii Loew or T. divisa Rondani. Its wing pattern looks more like divisa, but to my knowledge it has not been recorded from the B. Isles (it may be wrong...). If original photo shows short black setulae on abdomen at higher resolution, it is neesii. However, I suspect that the fly is from the continent and has no black hairs on abdomen (it looks light grey), and is therefore T. divisa.
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| PeterD |
Posted on 08-08-2010 06:31
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
Nosferatumyia wrote: Sorry, gentlemen. Tephritis is not that easy. My humble opinion: either Tephritis neesii Loew or T. divisa Rondani. Its wing pattern looks more like divisa, but to my knowledge it has not been recorded from the B. Isles (it may be wrong...). If original photo shows short black setulae on abdomen at higher resolution, it is neesii. However, I suspect that the fly is from the continent and has no black hairs on abdomen (it looks light grey), and is therefore T. divisa. Thank you. I have another image below if that helps.  http://www.imagei...AHV-XL.jpg Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 08-08-2010 08:42
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I do not see much more than before. Is it from UK?
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| PeterD |
Posted on 08-08-2010 09:33
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
Nosferatumyia wrote: I do not see much more than before. Is it from UK? Thanks for replying again. It was found in Hampshire UK, not far from Portsmouth. Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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| Nosferatumyia |
Posted on 08-08-2010 18:53
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Member Location: Posts: 3575 Joined: 28.12.07 |
From the size of oviscape and the absence of white setulae on oviscape, it is T. divisa Rondani. It was listed by Ian M. White (1988) as an unconfirmed british species under the name T. separata, which was considered a senior synonym of T. divisa until Merz (1994) separated them as good species. If you have a possibility to sweep this species on Picris or collect a paper bag of flower heads to rear some specimens, this record could be published in the Ent. Gazette, or Mon. Mag. or elsewhere. I am interested to see it published for the upgraded version of Tephritidae in Fauna Europaea. Val |
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| PeterD |
Posted on 09-08-2010 10:59
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Member Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 297 Joined: 08.11.09 |
Nosferatumyia wrote: From the size of oviscape and the absence of white setulae on oviscape, it is T. divisa Rondani. It was listed by Ian M. White (1988) as an unconfirmed british species under the name T. separata, which was considered a senior synonym of T. divisa until Merz (1994) separated them as good species. If you have a possibility to sweep this species on Picris or collect a paper bag of flower heads to rear some specimens, this record could be published in the Ent. Gazette, or Mon. Mag. or elsewhere. I am interested to see it published for the upgraded version of Tephritidae in Fauna Europaea. Thank you again for your information. You have taken a lot of time to help me with this ID and it is greatly appreciated. I take it from your reply that this is not a common fruit fly in the UK. I shall try and locate these again. I am not experienced in collecting and rearing these but wonder if you have access to information on how this is done. I am only an amatuer photographer with a great interest in all wildlife hence my inexperience in practical conservation. Kind regards Peter www.imageinuk.com |
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