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 Atylotus fulvus/loewianus (France)?? -> A. rusticus
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 10-06-2010 07:16
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
This big Tabanidae-fly I found yesterday in La Fontouret, Indre, France. Last year I found also two Atylotus flies, male (A.fulvus) and female (Atylotus fulvus/loewianus). I think this is also a female A.fulvus/loewianus. Is that right or am I completely wrong? Or could it be A. rusticus? Tjitske Lubach attached the following image:  [186.37Kb] Edited by Tjitske Lubach on 13-07-2010 18:42 Tjitske Lubach |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 10-06-2010 07:17
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 10-06-2010 07:18
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
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| Galeodes33 |
Posted on 10-06-2010 07:22
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Member Location: Madagascar Posts: 49 Joined: 28.05.10 |
This is A. fulvus: http://www.dipter...to_id=4608 A. loewianus http://www.dipter...to_id=3352 Edited by Galeodes33 on 10-06-2010 07:24 Galeodes33. |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 11-06-2010 15:26
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
Thank you very much Galeodes. The problem is that I find it hard to see the difference between the two, or maybe it is not possible to see it from the pictures. Today I saw this male Atylotus fly. Maybe this is easier to identify. I think it is A. fulvus? Tjitske Lubach attached the following image:  [184.74Kb] Tjitske Lubach |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 11-06-2010 15:26
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 11-06-2010 15:27
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-06-2010 11:52
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19282 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The femora are yellow in fulvus and loewianus. SO this clearly is rusticus. The male is either rusticus or latistriatus. Theo |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 21-06-2010 13:06
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
Thank you very much Theo for the identification. I knew it was difficult. I read that A. latistriatus is a fly of coastal/saltmarshes. We are living in the middle of France, the Indre. So can that be a reason to say that it is probably not latistriatus? A. rusticus seems more probable, since there are also females here? I have more pictures. Is there anything visible possible to ID this one by picture? Edited by Tjitske Lubach on 21-06-2010 13:07 Tjitske Lubach |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-06-2010 16:04
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19282 Joined: 21.07.04 |
I agree. The female is definitely rusticus and the male looks like rusticus, so it is more than likely rusticus. Latistriatus is indeed halophile and so coastal, though in the south these species tend to be less coastal than in the north. Still, all latistriatus from France I saw was from the coast. Theo |
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| Tjitske Lubach |
Posted on 21-06-2010 16:58
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Member Location: France, Indre, Saint-Gilles Posts: 177 Joined: 12.08.09 |
Thanks again Theo!
Tjitske Lubach |
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