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Isidro
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Posted on 30-05-2010 20:57
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Tentatively syrphid I suppose... in fact similar to an image of Eumerus sabulonum that I've posted last year. Hopefully not the same again!

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Can be identified?
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Eumerus, but I don't know which one.
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Thanks Paul, I hope that Andre or other people can concrete the species. At least this one don't remain without answers as my last tephritid...
 
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Isidro wrote:
Thanks Paul, I hope that Andre or other people can concrete the species. At least this one don't remain without answers as my last tephritid...


Hi Isidro
If you check how many threads go unanswered, there are 79 Pages of 20 per page, exluding the threads where one replies to ones own thread with a reply with another photo. We all have threads that go unanswered...that's life.
I've looked at your fly and comparing it to photo's in the Gallery (not very scientific), the wing pattern seems a good match to T.neesii, unfortunately the colour of the front femur is too light..Frown Maybe give it a punt for the umpteenth time...Valery might have missed it on the other occasions

Regards Roger
 
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Roger Thomason wrote:
Isidro wrote:
Thanks Paul, I hope that Andre or other people can concrete the species. At least this one don't remain without answers as my last tephritid...


Hi Isidro
If you check how many threads go unanswered, there are 79 Pages of 20 per page, exluding the threads where one replies to ones own thread with a reply with another photo. We all have threads that go unanswered...that's life.
I've looked at your fly and comparing it to photo's in the Gallery (not very scientific), the wing pattern seems a good match to T.neesii, unfortunately the colour of the front femur is too light..Frown Maybe give it a punt for the umpteenth time...Valery might have missed it on the other occasions

Regards Roger


Thanks Roger, yes I know that unanswered post are normal, but until now I never had one in Tephritidae because Valery is an amazing expert and let all of them identified. And as I uploaded the post various times and even tell directly to Valery after seeing that the thread go down quickly again, I supposed that this one was impossible to ID Smile

Well, about the syrphid: T. neesii? Which genus is it? Do you mean E. neesii? (from Eumerus)
Thanks a lot,
Isidro
 
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As ol' Frank Zappa himself might have said.."Zoot Allures" Isidro awkwardawkward, the fly I was referring to was the one you were saying you couldn't get ID'd by Valery.
I thought it looked like T.neesii....Tephritis neesii.

Regards Roger.....Remaining Cool

 
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Ahhhh thanks!!!!!
I will put that name then Smile
 
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And about this syrphid, nobody can go to species?
 
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Impossible then?
 
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No, it is not possible to come to a certain ID. This can be sabulonum, but also E. grandis for example.
Edited by Andre on 05-07-2010 18:12
 
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Damn! Well, at least we have genus. Thanks for reply! Some idea about this one please? http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=31421
 
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