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Tachinidae ID
Rui Andrade
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Posted on 12-04-2010 23:08
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I need help in the identification of this tachinid. It was found in Porto, Portugal on the 4th of March 2010.
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Admontia sp.
 
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It might be a trick of the light but does the median vein have a really long petiole? awkward
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ChrisR wrote:
It might be a trick of the light but does the median vein have a really long petiole?


You're absolutely right! Face profile does not fit for Ramonda to me.. Noidea?
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Definitely a Noidea sp. ... and quite literally as-yet unclassified - one for Theo I think Grin

I feel it must be at least Wagneriini but I don't see many up here Sad
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Noidea noidea Andrade, 2010
 
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Wagneria sp... ?
 
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With Chris's cue and following the key (if also a Central European species): Wagneria cf. cunctans? A southern species, flight time would fit!

I've got alpina and costata, but somehow this did not ring any bell...
 
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I have found a few moments ago a forgotten Wagneria sp. I saw in 2008. I have uploaded these photos to the gallery as well:
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Thank you for your effort! Do you need to see any detail? I can take some pictures if necessary.
 
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Definitily Wagneriini

I'm not sure why Wagneria is preferred above Ramonda, to me, it might be both.

Theo
 
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I think that the Ramonda I've seen have much narrower cheeks. That's why I went for Admontia, also the cheek bristles actually looked first to be cheeks hairs + bristles on the facial ridges! The fly under Jorge's link looks pretty similar?
 
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More photosSmile
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The presence of a strong ve bristle would be a more convincing argument.
In any case: Wagneria.

Very difficult genus, I'm not gonna speculate on species.


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Thank you Theo!
 
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