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 Antho? Finland
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| ekhohe |
Posted on 13-03-2010 18:55
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 Member Location: Lappeenranta, Finland Posts: 291 Joined: 02.07.08 |
What might this be? Lappeenranta, Finland, 21.6.2008, only photo, not collected. ekhohe attached the following image:  [98.21Kb] Henry http://henrys.16mb.com/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/henryekholm |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 13-03-2010 21:59
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I think indeed Anthomyiidae. It looks like a Phorbia sp., but not 100% sure.. Joke |
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| KWQ |
Posted on 14-03-2010 06:59
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Member Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 208 Joined: 10.12.04 |
Slightly late collected (21.6.) to be a Phorbia, at least I've never collected one after the beginning of June. And do any Phorbias have yellowish coloration on frons? But don't ask me what the genus is then... |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 14-03-2010 16:34
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
About the red frons....i think it is a fresh emerged species. But i also have indeed doubt about Phorbia.(the 2ad+2pd and strong yellow wings.. don't seems to fit) Maybe Chirosia (some species have strong yellow wings)...but i don't have any species of Chirosia  ...to compare with.Joke |
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| ekhohe |
Posted on 14-03-2010 17:20
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Member Location: Lappeenranta, Finland Posts: 291 Joined: 02.07.08 |
Thanks so far. Could this be same species or even same individual? Same location, 12.6.2008 ekhohe attached the following image:  [70.22Kb] Henry http://henrys.16mb.com/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/henryekholm |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 14-03-2010 23:22
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
With my head in the books and searching through my collection ......i think i found a very simular fly !! Also the male you placed in another thread, i probable found a simular one.. So i will have a look at both, but takes some time.... Joke (and....fres emerged + old wings, seems also not right.  )
Edited by javanerkelens on 14-03-2010 23:54 |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 15-03-2010 19:06
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I looked at my female and come to Botanophila striolata ! And i think yours is too...! (midtibia with 2 ad + acrostichals hairlike in 2-3 rows + prealar longer + yellow wings ..and anepisternum with isolated setula on upper anterior marging...we just can see this seta on photo 2) Relative common fly and leafminer of Ranunculus! For me it is my first B.striolata female and i can't find any photo to compare on the internet. I hope Ackland can confirm...?? Joke (the male on privious thread, will be later...) Edited by javanerkelens on 15-03-2010 19:40 |
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| ekhohe |
Posted on 16-03-2010 17:12
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Member Location: Lappeenranta, Finland Posts: 291 Joined: 02.07.08 |
Thanks Joke, you really do good work also explaining your findings. Hope also "someone" to confirm...
Henry http://henrys.16mb.com/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/henryekholm |
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| KWQ |
Posted on 17-03-2010 11:43
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Member Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 208 Joined: 10.12.04 |
I've understood that there are in fact two valid and very close species : Botanophila striolata (Fallén) and Botanophila dissecta (Meigen) with only slight differences. But perhaps it hasn't been formally published yet? |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 17-03-2010 13:49
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Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I've understood that there are in fact two valid and very close species : Botanophila striolata (Fallén) and Botanophila dissecta (Meigen) with only slight differences. But perhaps it hasn't been formally published yet? Can't find any publishment about it.... According to Hennig B.dissecta is more related to B.phrenione and both have only 1 ad on t2 and less broad frontal vitta and orbital plate (sice about 3.5 - 4.5 mm) B.striolata has 1-2 ad on t2 and very broad orbital plate (sice 3.5 - 7 mm) But i hope to find more info and articles in the future......and collect them also! From photos only, i think it will be always difficult (maybe impossible...) to be sure about this species. So i think it is right to say: Anthomyiidae = for sure Botanophila cf. striolata = not for sure Joke And it was a nice one for study..
Edited by javanerkelens on 17-03-2010 14:06 |
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