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 NEW YEARS FIRST FLY: Ditomyia sp, NE HU, Jan
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| pwalter |
Posted on 02-01-2010 21:18
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi everybody, my new-years-vow was to keep on finding rare insects and other anuimals  I think it's quite a good start to find a new dipteran family for me, Ditomyiidae on the second day of 2010 It was reared from a polypore. Two specimens so far, one at least is male. Is Ditomyia sure? I will post a pupa also, presumably of this species. Happy new year to everybody!
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| pwalter |
Posted on 02-01-2010 21:18
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 02-01-2010 21:20
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
ocelli present, small head, antennae with 15 segments. fit! Humpackbed thorax, fit! Now the wing venation will tell the possble genus. There are two in Europe. For genus show better the wing to see if there are or no transverse bands... if not, Symmerus.  Don't forget the Cremifaniidae I hope you find many. 
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| pwalter |
Posted on 03-01-2010 09:27
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi Jorge, I did not forget to collect for You, in spring I'll surely collect Aulaigaster sp, they are always present on a big sicamore tree at my university. Cremifaniidae I can not promise, but who knows Here's the wing: PS this piece of wood with polypores on it was very useful: the Calcosyrphus larva and seve4ral terrestrial Chironomids and also Ula sp (Pediciidae) larva wasd gfound in it! I think it may be so rich in diptera because the log from which I collected stood directly in a brook, so it was really wet. pwalter attached the following image:  [83.49Kb] Edited by pwalter on 03-01-2010 09:28 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 03-01-2010 12:38
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
you are right. Ditomyia sp. The last photo shows clearly the transversal bands- |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 04-01-2010 10:14
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 647 Joined: 17.09.08 |
Was it reared from that larva determined as Ditomyia fasciata? If so, what about final determination of imago? |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 04-01-2010 10:25
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
No, that was from someone else. I did not see such larvae, only imagos and exuvia. |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 13:37
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 Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Sorry to go off topic pwalter, but I am curious as to how and where you raise your dipterans. Do you use an emergence trap, terrarium or something else? I am considering doing something myself. To other users horror I guess, cluttering the forum with every single find I might have. Hyperbolizer |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 04-01-2010 14:38
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, i just collected bigger pieces of rotten wood with fungus on it with leaves. Than I kept it in a sealed ice-cream box for weeks, later I searched the whole mess thoroughly. I picked some intersting larvae. Than I took a piece a fungus, and placed it in a small (3x3x4 cm) sealed plastic box with the larvae. No air holes, but maybe you can make some. I checked it from time to time. Apparently there were larvae in the fungus itself, also, cause I placed different larvae on the fungus. It was at room temperature. Good luck! Keep the thing wet! When I saw mature flies, I put it in the fridge (8 Celsius) for as day, photographed and separated the flies and put the fungus again to room temp. |
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| cyprinoid |
Posted on 04-01-2010 14:43
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Member Location: Norway Posts: 1751 Joined: 19.06.09 |
Thank you. I will try to make an emergence trap to put a bird's nest in this spring. But might try wood and fungus the manner you described also. Did you put the whole thing in the fridge or just the adult flies? Hyperbolizer |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 04-01-2010 19:00
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
The whole box with the fungus and everyting. Just at about 8 Celsius. It did not hurt the still unhatched larvae. Also, I think some species might even need lower-than-roomtempreture circumstances. But Limoniidae and Ditomyiidae like room temperature, as far as i can tell. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 07-01-2010 00:44
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
If someone has a key it would be great to know the sp. Thanks!
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| pwalter |
Posted on 07-01-2010 00:45
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-01-2010 17:27
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
No chance? |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 10-01-2010 17:34
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
Looks pretty much like Chandler's illustration of D. fasciata. |
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| phil withers |
Posted on 10-01-2010 17:35
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Member Location: Lyon, France Posts: 521 Joined: 04.03.08 |
I'll rephrase that: Hutson et al illustration... |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-01-2010 19:39
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank You! |
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| AlexP |
Posted on 14-01-2010 11:44
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Member Location: Russia Posts: 97 Joined: 16.06.09 |
If you still need confirmation, this is certainly D. fasciata
Alex |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 14-01-2010 12:10
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thank you, photos are submitted to gallery. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 14-01-2010 13:36
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Thank you, photos have been published in Gallery.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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