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 Keroplatidae from larva, NE HU, Okt
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| pwalter |
Posted on 31-10-2009 00:37
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
At the beginning of October I collected a large larva and now it is an adult:
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| pwalter |
Posted on 31-10-2009 00:37
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 01-11-2009 22:23
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
The larva itself (about 25-28 mm).
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-11-2009 08:50
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Cerotelion, I'd say. Need to dig into the papers to see if there is more, but don't have time to do that now.
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| pwalter |
Posted on 25-01-2010 18:35
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
May I submit this to gallery? Or maybe You have time to check this one? According to this key to New Zealand fauna Cerotelion has one visible palpal segment, the other genera more. Here's only a stub of Palpus, so I guess it must be Cerotelion. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 25-01-2010 20:18
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I cannot be certain based on these images alone.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 25-01-2010 20:36
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 Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
According to the key to Keroplatinae genera in Zaitzev (1994), Cerotelion can be distinguished from Rocetelion by length of basitarsus I/tibia I ratio; it's 1.3 in C. lineatus and ca. 2 in R. humerale; we can't see the forelegs clearly yet median dark spot on wing is absent in R. humerale so I think it's C. lineatus.
Edited by Dmitry Gavryushin on 25-01-2010 20:39 |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 25-01-2010 20:50
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, I measured it and it is 1.3: Thank You Black! pwalter attached the following image:  [66.72Kb] |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 25-01-2010 21:18
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
While others can't climb, using infinite pains, I, gravity turning to jest, Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes, Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 25-01-2010 21:22
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Now it is just the question if Cerotelion and Recotelion were the only options...
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| pwalter |
Posted on 15-02-2010 22:47
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Now it is just the question if Cerotelion and Recotelion were the only options... Hi, as far as I can tell in the key of Manual of Palaearctic Diptera the only close genera are from Japan, so I think yes. May I submit it to gallery as Cerotelion? PS: C. striatum in FaunaEuropaea Edited by pwalter on 15-02-2010 22:48 Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 16-02-2010 09:14
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I'd rather see the specimen before commiting myself. 
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| AlexP |
Posted on 16-02-2010 12:44
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Member Location: Russia Posts: 97 Joined: 16.06.09 |
I'd support Cerotelion striatum (= lineatum). In second European species C.racowitzai 1st basitarsus should be equal to 1st tibia (according to abovemetioned Zaitzev). Still I'm not sure if this character is safe to use. Zaitzev himself uses only male genitalia characters in his key. So Cerotelion sp. should be OK.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-03-2011 11:55
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Perhaps belated, but having checked the different papers I can confirm AlexP is correct. You can submit pictures, if you want.
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| Gnats2meetu |
Posted on 03-03-2011 16:53
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 Member Location: York, U.K. Posts: 303 Joined: 06.07.09 |
Beautiful pictures!
Bobby D Jorvík |
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