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 Sarcophagidae / Tachinidae /?????
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 05-08-2009 06:49
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
I have no idea  Photographed in the Netherlands 4-8-09. Bergen (N.H.) Best regards, Thijs thijsdegraaf attached the following image:  [103.96Kb] Edited by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 06:36 http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-08-2009 18:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19143 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The grey pattern on thorax and abdomen looks very distinctive, yet no idea. Theo |
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 05-08-2009 22:20
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
Thanks Theo. On waarneming I've got the same answer. I only have this photo. It's on a leave of an holly in the garden. Thijs http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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| Smoggycb |
Posted on 06-08-2009 08:12
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Member Location: Rye Harbour, England Posts: 350 Joined: 19.05.07 |
Could it be Phyto melanocephala? I always think they look like a cross between a tachinid and a sarcophagid, and it does have a petiole on the wing. |
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 09-08-2009 06:32
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
Thanks, but I don't think, it is a Phyto melanocephala. I have this fly in the garden. They don't look similar. http://www.tuin-t...-11-5-.jpg When it was a Phyto, Theo had known. I look every day in the garden. But I don't see it again. Best regards, Thijs http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 09-08-2009 08:56
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19143 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Interesting observation. The calyptra are small, that supports Phyto (or Rhinophoridae in general). The abdominal pattern is very peculiar. However, the photo has been flashed. So maybe it is artificial ? Theo |
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 09-08-2009 11:57
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
The photo hasn't been flashed Theo. I have placed the original photo on my site now. http://www.tuin-t...4-8-09.jpg This is what I saw that day. Thijs Edited by thijsdegraaf on 09-08-2009 11:58 http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 20-08-2009 22:49
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
Suggestion Joke van Erkelens: Maybe Macronychia agrestis (old name Tachina agrestis) Is this possible? Regards, Thijs http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 21-08-2009 09:15
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 Member Location: Netherlands Posts: 2962 Joined: 18.10.07 |
I must admit, that going to species level, was to enthousiastic of me  , but Macronychia / Amobia could be a possibility.I know you gladly want to kwow this nice fly, so I hope you get a confirming of an expert! Joke van Erkelens |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-08-2009 09:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19143 Joined: 21.07.04 |
We can't see many bristles, the topcell seems stalked but this might be an artifact of the picture, the light is curious,though not flashed, this one is beyond reasonable ID. Theo |
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| Jan HC Velterop |
Posted on 21-08-2009 11:05
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Member Location: Enschede NL 7544 ZE 106 Posts: 56 Joined: 08.03.06 |
The suggestion that this fly might be a Macronychia has to be rejected. Macronychia species can have the midstripe black, but then the thinner sidestripes are continuing over the suture to the second post DC. Also I do not think that the short stalk of the topcell is an artifact, because the wings are in flat horizontal position. I think we have to look for Tachinidae or Rhinophoridae. Jan Velterop, Enschede NL |
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| thijsdegraaf |
Posted on 21-08-2009 19:53
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Member Location: Bergen (NH) Posts: 838 Joined: 21.10.08 |
Thanks Jan, Theo and Joke. Unfortunately fly spec. But I've learned a lot.Thijs http://www.tuin-t...engels.htm |
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