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Muscidae --> Musca autumnalis (copula)
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Is it a Musca sp ? and is it possible to go further ?

Loire-atlantique, western France, April 13 2009.
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Musca autumnalis.
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Musca domestica

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Well ... Wink

are there any clues, based on this picture, to make the difference between automnalis and domestica ?
 
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M. domestca -> Male eyes separated by more than 2x flagellomere width ; female fronto-orbital plates narrow, about 1/3 frontal vitta width.

M. autumnalis -> Male eyes separated by less than flagellomere width ; female fo plates broader, more than 2/3 as wide as frontal vitta.

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sorry Stephane for being so bold with my answer.
We posted at the same time and I was unaware that you had already replied when I did.
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Many Thanks Stephane for your didactic answer !! Smile
 
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