Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Lispe species please ID
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| David020 |
Posted on 10-08-2008 20:24
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dear Dipterists, last weekend I spotted some flies on a sandy shore of an (artificial) sand pit (25 m wide, 2 m deep). apparently these belong to the Muscidae genus Lispe. is there anyone who can help me ID this pretty fly to species level? many thanx ..! David David020 attached the following image:  [146Kb] |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 10-08-2008 20:48
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Where was the picture taken?
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| David020 |
Posted on 10-08-2008 22:15
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photo was taken in southeast of The Netherlands, area with many forests and sandy soils. |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 11-08-2008 20:39
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My guess is Lispe tentaculata female
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 11-08-2008 21:29
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I'm far from a expert, but aren't the fore tarsi predominantly yellow by the tentaculata ?? I thought is was the consanguinea....(because of the almost round palpi) Greatings Joke |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 12-08-2008 00:39
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The fore-tarsi are yellow in the male tentaculata, but I don't think they are in the female. Palpi can look round or elongate depending on the angle at which they are viewed. I'm not sure that there's much difference in palpal shape between these two species. This picture may show consanguinea, but without a specimen (or picture of an associated male), it will be difficult to be sure. To me, it looks more like tentaculata than the pictures of consanguinea that I've seen. (I haven't got any specimens of consanguinea - it's a rare species here!) Edited by Tony Irwin on 12-08-2008 00:40 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| David020 |
Posted on 12-08-2008 07:28
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many thanx Tony (and Joke). i read in Roskosny & Gregor (2004, p. 60) that in females 'Alle Tarsen schwarz, die Tibien koennen aber bei einige Individuen ausgedehnt gelb sein'. so apparently female tentaculata normally has black tarsi. i'll register it as a possible tentaculata. best wishes, David |
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| javanerkelens |
Posted on 12-08-2008 12:50
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Also thanks ! I wil make a notice of it. Greatings Joke Edited by javanerkelens on 12-08-2008 12:55 |
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