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 Lonchaea spec.--> Lonchaea patens
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 24-12-2025 16:48
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 Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Is it possible to ID this one a bit further? Found in the Netherlands, forest near dunes, april 2025 Specimen is collected Lavendel attached the following image:  [184.1Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 08-01-2026 07:31 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 24-12-2025 16:49
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
an other view
Lavendel attached the following image:  [219.65Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 24-12-2025 16:49
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
last one
Lavendel attached the following image:  [124.54Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 04-01-2026 09:40
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Could Lonchaea sylvatica be an option?
Edited by Lavendel on 04-01-2026 09:41 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 04-01-2026 11:06
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 Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 471 Joined: 25.11.04 |
The specimen has yellow tarsomeres - so it is not L. sylvatica Fortunately it is a male so so you should be able to identify by examination of the genitalia. I have keys if you require them Iain MacGowan |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 04-01-2026 13:46
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Hi Iain, Many thanks for the reference to the key. It's my first: Eyes; bare or practically bare Anterior genal setae: multiserial Lavendel attached the following image:  [143.45Kb] Edited by Lavendel on 04-01-2026 13:53 Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 04-01-2026 13:47
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Proepimeron: with a few well developed setae / setulae Legs; Tarsomeres obviously yellow/ orange Lavendel attached the following image:  [138.77Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 04-01-2026 13:48
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
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Lavendel attached the following image:  [141.4Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 04-01-2026 13:49
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Eyes; bare or practically bare Anterior genal setae: multiserial Proepimeron: with a few well developed setae / setulae Legs; Tarsomeres obviously yellow/ orange ...And then I can't go on Scutellum; without setulae on margin anterior to lateral setae (Fig F). But my specimen is like Fig E, I cant't find a reference in the key. Bigger pictures you can find here: https://waarneming.nl/observation/345480910/ Lavendel attached the following image:  [155.64Kb] Kind regards, Sandra |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 04-01-2026 18:14
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Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 471 Joined: 25.11.04 |
Hi Sandra Well done for getting so far. Based on your description I would be reasonably confident that this is a male of Lonchaea patens. The large cercus is visible in your photo at the tip of the abdomen. The other two species in this part of the key - L. vagans and L. germanica are little known Best wishes ........ Iain Iain MacGowan |
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| Lavendel |
Posted on 05-01-2026 05:57
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Member Location: The Netherlands Posts: 352 Joined: 10.11.07 |
Hi Iain, Many thanks, I can see the Proepimeron; with up to 7 setulae. Legs; t1 and t2 yellow. t1 of fore tarsi with ventral fringe of setulae golden Best wishes, Sandra Kind regards, Sandra |
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