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 Syrphidae? and no idea
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| Michael Stemmer |
Posted on 08-02-2025 09:38
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 Member Location: D-53572 Unkel, Germany Posts: 511 Joined: 06.08.06 |
Hello, can someone determine this fly? I´m not even sure, if it is a Syrphidae at all ... Location: Germany, Rhineland-Palatinum, 53572 Unkel, river Rhine valley, Stux hill, dry and warm habitat (grapeyards), nearby deciduous forest (oak, beech ...), May 19th 2024. Thanks in advance, Michael Michael Stemmer attached the following image:  [146.33Kb] |
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| Michael Stemmer |
Posted on 08-02-2025 09:38
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Member Location: D-53572 Unkel, Germany Posts: 511 Joined: 06.08.06 |
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Michael Stemmer attached the following image:  [140.14Kb] |
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| eklans |
Posted on 08-02-2025 11:47
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4100 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Syrphidae is correct. Do you have a strictly lateral image?
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Michael Stemmer |
Posted on 08-02-2025 14:46
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Member Location: D-53572 Unkel, Germany Posts: 511 Joined: 06.08.06 |
I`m sorry, Eric, but these are the only two photos I have from this fly. At least any suggestions? Greetings, Michael |
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| eklans |
Posted on 08-02-2025 15:41
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4100 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Black legs, hairy eyes and face, scutellum with long bristles, silvery hairs on tergite's margin: could be a female Cheilosia variabilis. Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Michael Stemmer |
Posted on 08-02-2025 15:48
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Member Location: D-53572 Unkel, Germany Posts: 511 Joined: 06.08.06 |
Hello Eric, Could, but not for sure? |
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| eklans |
Posted on 08-02-2025 17:31
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Member Location: Franconia, Germany Posts: 4100 Joined: 11.11.18 |
Hello Michael, Cheilosia is a big and quite complicated genus and I'm not an expert but learning. Hopefully an expert will have a look at your fly and give us some certainty. It could attract an expert if you add Cheilosia cf. variabilis to the title of your thread.
Edited by eklans on 08-02-2025 17:34 Greetings, Eric Kloeckner |
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| Michael Stemmer |
Posted on 09-02-2025 07:55
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Member Location: D-53572 Unkel, Germany Posts: 511 Joined: 06.08.06 |
Good morning Eric, so I think I´ll name it "Cheilosia cf. variabilis", if you don´t contradict. Greetings from the river Rhine valley, Michael |
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| Karsten Thomsen |
Posted on 18-04-2025 21:11
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 Member Location: Hjortshøj, Jutland, Denmark Posts: 651 Joined: 07.01.16 |
I'd go for Cheilosia gigantea or proxima. |
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