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 Haematopota ID - north-western France
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:31
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Hello, I started checking the collection of Joseph Bergerard, a French entomologist. There are quite a few Haematopota, including one that could be something other than pluvialis. Particularly with the grayer tint than the other specimens and a less pronounced constriction of the first article of the antenna. But maybe I'm wrong ! So I create a post to be sure. 1987, in north Brittany, near littoral. BLecaplain attached the following image:  [179.08Kb] Edited by BLecaplain on 16-08-2024 08:33 |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:36
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First antennal segement not cylindric, with a constriction (quite small and not really clear, but there is a constriction). I
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:37
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Light spot
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:39
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Lateral view. Femur dark-grey. With this view, we have a grey-green coloration (pluvialis BLecaplain attached the following image:  [239.89Kb] Edited by BLecaplain on 16-08-2024 08:55 |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:42
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Other views of first antennal segment.
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:47
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and subgenital plate. The upper part appears rolled up. If so, we could have the same shape as pluvialis. BLecaplain attached the following image:  [132.24Kb] |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 08:53
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and a bad view of the frons, maybe too grey for pluvialis ? If I compare the first antennal segment with photos from internet I think it's pluvialis. subcylindrica, which is a potential candidat for my specimen, have this first antennal segment more regular, less misshapen. https://www.flickr.com/photos/63075200@N07/49489140398/in/album-72157629590227141 I don't know ! Benoît BLecaplain attached the following image:  [207.94Kb] |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 16-08-2024 14:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18976 Joined: 21.07.04 |
This is not greyish, this is greenish ...... Theo |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 15:29
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Ok so pluvialis ! Thanks Theo ! |
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| BLecaplain |
Posted on 16-08-2024 15:32
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Appréciation of colour is quite difficult but maybe with when I will see lots of spécimens it will be easier |
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