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 atomic force microscope
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 27-01-2008 00:57
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
This tool was invented in 80's and it is an amazing tool that enables sounding matter in nanoscale!  Remember that in nanoscale the macroscopic laws don't apply to this order of magnitude. Quantum mechanics rules in this "new" very tiny, tiny world,  and common sense is, completely, not welcome in this world. I wonder if this tool could be used in flies on special structures, exempli gratia in ommatidia, ocelli and so on to discern very peculiar differences. I mean I think that it is possible to use this microscope to distinguish among different species that are hard to split. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 27-01-2008 01:11 |
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| Adrian |
Posted on 28-01-2008 11:21
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Not sure AFM would be much use with such large structures as ommatidia, ocelli etc . My understanding is that it 'visualizes' structure more at a macromolecular level so one might be able to see structures about 1/100000000 of the width of average ommatidia! That kind of resolution would make using a key 'interesting' cheers Adrian |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 01-02-2008 10:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Just for curiosity. We can dive even more to the atomic level with the amazing Scanning tunneling microscopy (STM). Tunneling's concept came through quantum mechanics. Of course, it would be useless for the purposes of ID.  I think it is possible to "see" in AFM those peculiar structures with relevant interest for dipterans. At least there are some works like this one - Raman-atomic force microscopy of the ommatidial surfaces of Dipteran compound eyes Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 01-02-2008 10:24 |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 09-06-2008 22:41
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Hi - I just noticed this old message (WAY BACK from January...). Anyone interested in seeing the full paper, drop me an email (as I am one of the authors!). This is a subject we are still working on! Using it for splitting closely related species? Highly doubtful. Using it to explore submicron morphology and surface chemistry? Oh yeah!  Cheers, Steve Steve Gaimari Plant Pest Diagnostics Lab, CDFA 3294 Meadowview Road Sacramento, CA 95832-1448, USA |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 16-06-2008 18:52
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Okay if I drop a reply rather than an email?
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 16-06-2008 19:38
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Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
No problem - but I am not allowed to "post" it on a website, so can only email the PDF. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 16-06-2008 22:38
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
NP and thx.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 01-07-2008 18:26
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Steve Gaimari wrote: Hi - I just noticed this old message (WAY BACK from January...). Anyone interested in seeing the full paper, drop me an email (as I am one of the authors!). This is a subject we are still working on! Using it for splitting closely related species? Highly doubtful. Using it to explore submicron morphology and surface chemistry? Oh yeah! Cheers, Steve wow. great! Of course I'm interested. |
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