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Syrphidae > Cheilosia sp ? From Belgium
Tetrao
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Posted on 28-04-2022 08:13
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Yesterday, 2022-04-27, I picutred this specimen which seems to be a Syrphidae of the genus Cheilosia, but can we ID it up to the species ?
It seems to be a male ?
This specimen was measured on picture : 7,0mm

Thank you for reading this post, for your comments and / or your ID !!!

Profil view :
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Face :
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Have a good day all !
Edited by Tetrao on 28-04-2022 08:16
 
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Hi, I don't think it's a Cheilosia as these have a distinct protruding face. It should be one of the Pipizini. Do you have more photos (wings, abdomen)?
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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An other one in profile, hope this help ...

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Eric, it seems you are once more right !
Found this link about Pipizini : http://cdussaix.f...istome.htm !!
It seems it could be some Heringia ?
InBelgium, I see we have H. heringi and H. senilis , but the last one seems to be rare !
 
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Posted on 28-04-2022 10:30
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An other picture with cell R4+5 :

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Yes, Heringia looks good - but I don't dare to name the species.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thank you again Eric !!!
 
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Posted on 29-04-2022 20:57
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Hi Éric,
On observations.be, expert proposed Neocnemodon sp !

« Heringia a été divisé en Heringia et Neocnemodon. Comme les antennes sont assez courtes et le coxa 3 semble d'avoir in reglement qui manque chez Heringia s.s.
Pour aller plus loin il faut avoir plus de détails des deux premières pattes.

Bien à vous

Wout »
Edited by Tetrao on 29-04-2022 21:00
 
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Posted on 30-04-2022 09:09
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Thanks for the info - I didn't recognize the subdivision Heringia/Neocnemodon yet.
Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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