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Sarcophagidae with golden parafacialia--> Amobia signata
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Posted on 05-09-2021 12:25
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One of a pair of flesh flies reared from a Crabronidae nest, 8/july/2021 (Spain: Catalonia: Girona: Girona city), 7.2 mm. Any guess of a species?
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Lateral
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Dorsal
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Ventral--- it must be a female, I think
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Genus Amobia (row of hairs in place of orbital bristles).
 
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Thanks John, here in Spain there are only two species recorded, A.oculata and A.signata. It looks different to them, and somehow similar to the australian A.auriceps, but being a female it must be difficult to run a species, I guess
 
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?? Looks like a male to me. Check the genitalia


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Thanks Theo. It is in the steam chamber now. I was used to e. g. Lucilia males with well exserted genitalia and so I thought it was a female...
 
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Well, genitalia are highly informative in Amobia, so keep us posted

We need a lateral shot (of the genitalia)

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I have little experience so it was with KOH only 5 min
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With only transmitted light
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Should I macerate it more time ? Or split the capsule from the rest ? I only hope is not too late
 
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I guess this should be Amobia signata, but let the experts respond!
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after 10 min KOH
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more dried, some appendages pushed backwards
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https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/94307413

Thomas Pape has been written
 
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Maybe Theo can say more now you posted the pictures of the genitalia.
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Yes, he can !

Very clearly A. signata (unless you have some cryptic Iberian endemic)


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Thanks! Theo and JanSmile
 
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