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Posted on 20-06-2021 09:32
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For a friend living west of France, about Nantes.
Pictured on 18th of march 2021. Size 2,5 mm :
roy : France : Luçon : 85400 : 18/04/2021
Altitude : 10 m - Taille : 2,5 mm.
Réf. : 279840
roy : France : Luçon : 85400 : 18/04/2021
Altitude : 10 m - Taille : 2,5 mm.
Réf. : 282223
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Thanks Tony but I don't know any Drosophilidae without subcostal cell ?
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Posted on 20-06-2021 12:36

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Apparently there is a malformation of the wing base in this specimen. Among others, anal vein is absent.. Otherwise, it is a typical female of D. obscura group, probably D. subobscura.
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Thanks Jan, I didn't imagine such a deformity.
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Posted on 22-06-2021 09:05
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Wing slightly darkekened along costal margin, a single strong apical seta on the palp: D. (S.) subobscura

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Posted on 22-06-2021 11:45
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Thank you Paul.
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28.06.21 15:24
thx TO eklans

03.06.21 11:11
@Tony Irwin Thank you Tony! I've emailed you there Pfft

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