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 Tachinid from Mallorca
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 01-08-2009 12:20
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Using Tschorsnig this specimens runs to couplet 252 Besseria but does not seem to be this genus. Any suggestions appreciated
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 01-08-2009 12:23
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
and from front
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 01-08-2009 17:30
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Hmm, it does look like a Besseria or Clairvillia - what makes you think it is wrong? 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-08-2009 13:23
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19288 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Clairvillia male. Hopefully this helps to find out what went wrong. Theo |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 02-08-2009 15:03
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
Many thanks Chris and Theo. I suspect my specimen failed at couplet 243 because my specimen shows a very short r5 petiole. taking the second option it runs easily to Clairvilla. There seem to be only 2 European species of which only Clairvillia pninae is recorded from Mallorca. This tread http://www.dipter...pid=101721 suggests pinnae has cell r4+5 cell closed at the border of the wing and yellow palpus (but it is female being discussed). Are these features good for male, any other way to separate them? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-08-2009 16:47
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19288 Joined: 21.07.04 |
The colouration of the palpi works in both sexes, though not always clear. In the male, hairs on tergites are adpressed in biguttata and erect in pninae. Both features indicate pninae in this case. Theo |
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| David Gibbs |
Posted on 02-08-2009 17:21
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Member Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 833 Joined: 17.06.06 |
Exellent, thanks Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-11-2019 19:21
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19288 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Actually, I messed up: it is vice versa. Theo |
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| Moumoule |
Posted on 04-01-2026 21:04
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Member Location: South of France Posts: 64 Joined: 25.08.20 |
Sorry Theo, I didn't get it, so you mean that here hairs on tergites are erected so the specimen in this post is Clairvillia biguttata and not C. pninae ? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-01-2026 10:42
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19288 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, this is C. biguttata male. Theo |
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| Moumoule |
Posted on 06-01-2026 12:21
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Member Location: South of France Posts: 64 Joined: 25.08.20 |
Thank you Theo ! |
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