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Pipizella sp., male
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Posted on 17-05-2021 16:11

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Germany, Baden-W├╝rttemberg, district Karlsruhe, Karlsbad-Spielberg, in a garden, ca. 5 mm, 340 m, found date 16.05.2021; Is this hoverfly determinable - Cheilosia spec.? Thanks
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Cheilosia is very difficult with only few species easily recognizable... In p. 55 you can try to find out a group - might be Variabilis-group if the legs are really black, but the "knees" seem to be pale... So, this one is not for me. Besides, Cheilosia pictures should always include a good face profile, which is important for ID. And it always pays to look at Steven Falk's Syrphid pages, you get a lot of information (https://www.flick...690619935/).
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Posted on 17-05-2021 16:51

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Thank you for the detailed and good advice
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Posted on 18-05-2021 20:45

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Hi Gerold & Sundew,

this is a Pipizella sp., male. Note the flat face.

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Posted on 19-05-2021 09:23

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Hello Helge, thank you very much for the help
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